[Nico]

>You count Gun Valkyrie in your best games? It's one of my "I could have spent my money more wisely" games...

btw, about supermario kart:

[01010]

I loved Gunvalkyrie but I admit the controls weren't the easiest to learn and it's incredibly difficult to play but I really enjoyed it. I get a perverse sense of satisfaction in trying to play games that are too hard until I get good enough to break them.

[Nico]

Lol
I hate games where I end up being stuck for now reason ( in the pit of don't remember what, you have that huge ball you try to reach jumping from pillaars to pillars, and then, no more pillars you can reach! WTF? I've tried everything, I've flown in that ridiculously small level for hours, and I always ended up stuck at the same place )
There's one cool thing in GV, tho: the drive gun, it kicks some serious ass ( sound, visual, I've rarely felt that powerful when pulling a trigger, in any game )

[bbobb]

[color="gold"]Whoa, whoa, whoa, back it up, beep beep; calm down son. I am unduly sorry if my 'unorthodox' views on gaming have 'offended' you, and I would like to extend this apology to anyone else who feels the need to get so irrationally angry. I really hope you're not assuming that I just say things for the sake of being iconoclastic. If you don't like my opinions, then frankly, I really don't know what to say to you.

I have already stated that I believed the Xbox was worth the money. I'm not dismissing the popular games for certain consoles, I just don't think this is a good method of arguing, or 'giving reasons' as you call it:[/color]

Originally posted by adwight
What does X-Box have besides Halo???? Nothing.  What does Gamecube have, only the best games on the market out there.  Get yourself a gamecube, best 100 bucks you'll ever spend.

Originally posted by Thorn
You. Fool.
KotOR, Crimson Skies 2, MechAssault, Metal Gear Solid 2, Project Gotham 1 & 2, Prince of Persia, Legacy of Kain: Defiance, every EA Sports game, Halo 2 in a few months, Deus Ex 2, Arx Fatalis, XIII, Counterstrike, Alter Echo, Armed & Dangerous, Battlestar Galactica, Bloody Roar Extreme... do you want me to keep going?

[color="gold"]I believe Halo is good, but not quite stellar, Prince of Persia is a multiplatform game, Defiance has gotten mixed reviews, I don't think Bloody Roar has ever aimed particularly high, and I think XIII and Counter-Strike are relatively bad shooters, but this is all besides the point.

I'm not sure what you think a simple enumeration of the acclaimed games for a particular console does. I highly doubt that someone sets out to buy a console with no idea of what games are on it. I don't see how the list of good games for one console would be more significantly convincing than the list of good games for another console. If the person was totally unfamiliar with all the games mentioned, neither one would be more convincing than the other. If they were familiar with most of the titles, then they'd probably already have their own pre-conceived notions of the quality of the games.

I honestly don't think it helps all that much to answer the question "Is Xbox worth it?" They're fantastic as recommendations once someone has decided to or has already made a purchase.

There may be some truth to your high horse accusation, but it's also pretty hypocritical coming from you.[/color]

[magatsu1]

I bought a GC 'cos it's the cheapest. Since then, I got a PS1 and SNES, and about a dozen of the top ganes, for less than that.
I toyed with gettin' a mega drive and N64 since then.

Consoles are best when you can get 'em cheap. As Seketh said, they are pretty frivilous (not sure about the spellin' there) My Communication teacher at school insisted on calling consoles "toys". Summs it up I 'spose. And I can't stand using a joy pad for FPS any more.

Hey, as Microsoft don't need Halo2 to sell X-Creates like the prequel, does this mean the PC will get a decent port ? Or will we haved to wait another 3 years ?

[Nico]

Originally posted by magatsu1

Hey, as Microsoft don't need Halo2 to sell X-Creates like the prequel, does this mean the PC will get a decent port ? Or will we haved to wait another 3 years ?

Since we're still waiting for a decent port for Halo the first on PC, I guess you have your answer

[magatsu1]

I gave up waiting.

[01010]

Originally posted by Nico
Lol
I hate games where I end up being stuck for now reason ( in the pit of don't remember what, you have that huge ball you try to reach jumping from pillaars to pillars, and then, no more pillars you can reach! WTF? I've tried everything, I've flown in that ridiculously small level for hours, and I always ended up stuck at the same place )
There's one cool thing in GV, tho: the drive gun, it kicks some serious ass ( sound, visual, I've rarely felt that powerful when pulling a trigger, in any game )

The drive gun hurt my ears after a while but it was kickass, that level with the ball, absolute nightmare and they get harder, at a certain point you have to boost yourself over to the canyon wall at the side and climb to a higher floaty thing. Took me ages to work out and even longer to do, then you get into the ball, have to fight a huge boss only to die and restart the level. One of the few times I felt like crying. The satisfaction when I did it though, it was one of those thing you'll always remember in your gaming history.

[Stryke 9]

Oh, and now the whole "they hate me 'cos I'm different" bit. Dandy.

Anyway. Whatever. There's a chance of a simple miscommunication, but honestly from your reaction it sounds more like you're uncomfortable with the terms I cached what you're doing in more than have any disagreement with the general idea. You still haven't even given a vague idea of what you think would constitute reason to buy a console, you've just stated over and over that you think all the consoles have nice games, which is not exactly something that needed pointing out in the first place. The existence of specific desirable games isn't always known (hell, I still don't know what all's on any of the three systems, just the most popular ones and only recently those at that)- the fact that all three at the very least don't suck so bad they dropped out of the running is kind of a given. Since games in general are assumedly a level playing field (they're not, really, but since that's dealing in generalizations it's a waste of time to press the point anyway), and hardware, stability, and features are all similar or complementary between the big three, when comparing the consoles you're basically stuck with comparing specific games. And it's fine if you think they're all the same- that's very nice for you, doesn't really further anything in a discussion about which is a preferable system, but then again there's no real demand for productivity here. However, there's no need to repeat yourself over and over and over again, and given your attitude in doing it it sure as hell looks like a half-assed attempt to condescend. Get to the point or be done wit' ye.

VeNico: What was wrong with the HALO port? First I heard it sucked...

[Falcon]

I didn't think a simple forum question would turn into a long discussion

[bbobb]

[COLOR="gold"]Attitude? Frankly, I'm wasn't trying to condescend at all, at least not until your relatively long post. I'm sorry if this alleged "they hate me 'cos I'm different" attitude bothers you; I wasn't expecting such patronizing replies over gaming consoles.

Now last time I checked, the question was "Is Xbox worth it?" not "What are you favorite games for your favorite consoles?". Considering how the former is phrased, I think it would have something to do with the value provided by a console in proportion to its price tag. If that is indeed the case, then yes, I think the Xbox is worth it. Since you feel the need to refer to the original question, it's worth noting that it says nothing about which is the preferable console. I'm sorry if it's counter-productive for me to say this, but I honestly don't think that any one console is significantly better than the other. If I absolutely had to pick, I would say the PlayStation2 is the best.

 [/COLOR]

[SuperCoolAl]

I've got a Cube with Zelda, Rogue Squadron 2 and 3, MK:DD, Soul Calibur 2, Bloody Roar, XG3, THPS4, Enter the Matrix, and UNIVERSAL STUDIOS THEME PARK ADVENTURE!!!!! (my bro bought that one seriously)

edit: seeing bbobb's post, the only decent game for xbox is halo and the controller is crap, so it isn't

[Falcon]

The only reason I'm considering buying a XBox is becuase I can't find a cheap enough computer. I've looked everywhere but no such luck. Wouldn't you know it no one sell computer for below $200 I'm just trying to find a system that has a case a power supply and a motherboard that can support 4X - 8X AGP and has a descent processor and a few sticks of RAM, plus CDrom and a Hard Drive only need 20 gigs *should have asked earlier*  

*prepares to shot himself in the head*

[Nico]

Originally posted by Stryke 9
VeNico: What was wrong with the HALO port?

The specs to make this thing run.
Didn't say it sucked. The game itself is the same. Well I suppose.

[01010]

Originally posted by Nico

The specs to make this thing run.
Didn't say it sucked. The game itself is the same. Well I suppose.

Doesn't play the same to me, I like Halo with the controller as daft as that seems.

[Stryke 9]

Nico: Well thbbbt to you and all you other slow-processor types, then. Glad to hear it isn't ****ed up or something, I'm rather looking forward to getting it.

[Kamikaze]

So, why don't you upgrade? If you buy, say, a cheap KT-400, Athlon 1800+ and a stick of ram that comes out to about $140. Add in a Radeon 9000 and that's $200. That should be a decently comfortable system.

[aldo_14]

Ps2 has Pro Evo 3*. That's why i bought it.

Ok, so it's on the PC as well now.  But can you take it into the living room and sit on the couch in front of a 28 inch telly on the PC?

[Nico]

Originally posted by Kamikaze
So, why don't you upgrade? If you buy, say, a cheap KT-400, Athlon 1800+ and a stick of ram that comes out to about $140. Add in a Radeon 9000 and that's $200. That should be a decently comfortable system.

Why? Coz I have the Xbox version. I have no problem finding 3 friends to play on a console, and as I'll never mod Halo, the PC version doesn't have much value to me.
Oh, and I have a radeon 9700 ( so what if it slowed down by the rest of my rig? ). But if I buy a new CPU, I'll most likely need to buy a new mobo as well and I really don't want to go into PC modding again right now.
Besides, I don't want to go into PC modding ever again, so I'll buy a complete thing, next time.

[Kamikaze]

I was recommending the upgrade to Falcon.