[magatsu1]

I was reading an article in a uk newspaper where fans were chanting at Wayne Rooney during a recent football game.
They were apparantly chanting "You fat b*****d" but police were involved 'cos they were mistaken for "you black b****d" aimed at another player (I forget his name)

So is a racist insult worse than another ? Is it okay to call Wayne Rooney so long asit isn't racist ?
And are UK police scared ****less and obcessed with racisim after Stephen Laurence ?

[Falcon]

Racism is everywhere there are still some who hate blacks. For goodness sakes we were all created in the same image!

[Corsair mk. 2]

Heh, we had a program run by the Anti-Defamation League at school. Called "Names Can Really Hurt Us."

They'd probably tell you no, one insult is just as bad as another. Whether you call someone retard, stupid, fat, gay, kike, wasp, etc.

I'm inclined to agree with them, they seemed like smart people... and honestly. What's the difference?

[magatsu1]

That's what I thought. An insult is an insult. I also thought the police were showing double standards.

[karajorma]

I think the difference is the fact that a fat person can always slim down while a black person will always be black.

Besides when people get stabbed just for being fat then I suppose it would start to be considered in the same league.

Besides you honestly think that locking up the sort of moron who would chant that sort of thing would be any loss to society?

[magatsu1]

no, but, what about the people chanting at Wayne Rooney ?
The Police were, apparantley, not too bothered about them.

I don't question their moving against poss.racists,but don't you think it sends conflicting messages ?

[Corsair mk. 2]

People do heckle at games all the time... it's called freedom of speech

But I do understand what you're trying to say.

[karajorma]

I get your point but the police can't do anything against people calling someone fat but they can bring a charge of inciting racial hatred against anyone making racist comments.

Oh and as someone who lived on Well Hall Road until about a year before the Stephen Laurence murder I'd far rather see the police taking on racism with an iron fist than the shameful state of affairs they let go on after the murder.

[vyper]

I'd rather it was a more balanced approach.

Edit: Discuss this one kids - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3383589.stm

[Sandwich]

Derek Zoolander said it best:

Zoolander: "Originally, I wanted Will Smith for the role (of Zoolander)."
Stiller: "But he's black."
Zoolander: "You have a problem with that?"

[Corsair mk. 2]

Wait. Derek Zoolander is a real person???

I never saw that movie... heard it was really funny though.

[mikhael]

It was brilliant, Corsair. It made fun of everything and did it pretty intelligently, all while pretending to be a stupid movie.

[Martinus]

[color=66ff00]Hate in any form is still hate, pity those who have it in their heart for it takes our humanity from us.
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[Corsair mk. 2]

In that case... I'll put it on my list of movies to see.

By the way, was Independence Day any good? Cuz that's on my list too right now...

[Windrunner]

Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]Hate in any form is still hate, pity those who have it in their heart for it takes our humanity from us.
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you said it mag.

here in sweden the racisim is  not so big problem beacuse we don't have many colored humans. but the nacisim is a growing problem in whole scandinavia.

[jdjtcagle]

Originally posted by Falcon
Racism is everywhere there are still some who hate blacks. For goodness sakes we were all created in the same image!

Where I'm from you don't have to be white to be racist.  But I have learned to deal with it.  It's sad around here, and I'm guessing everywhere else, but I don't know how many fights I've gotten into, for a white guy being racist to a black guy and black guys to whites guys.  I hate it, its stupid, and In my mind IT DOESN'T EXIST!!  And I'll do whatever I can to make sure it doesn't.

[Bobboau]

so you can get arrested in the UK for saying the word 'nigger'? now those who use such language are tards yes, but it seems... wrong to be arrested for simply useing racaly insinsitive launguage.

but it's your country. I supose it's better than the alternitave were you have these people throughing big loud rallies

[Carl]

Originally posted by jdjtcagle

Where I'm from you don't have to be white to be racist.

where i'm from you do.

[01010]

Originally posted by Bobboau
so you can get arrested in the UK for saying the word 'nigger'? now those who use such language are tards yes, but it seems... wrong to be arrested for simply useing racaly insinsitive launguage.

but it's your country. I supose it's better than the alternitave were you have these people throughing big loud rallies

No you can't get arrested for that as far as I know, unless it's accompanied with more threatening behaviour (which tends to be the case at some football grounds), in fact I've heard people hurl far worse abuse at the police themselves and they can't really do anything.

Plus nigger is just a word, I don't see it as racially charged until it's used by the ****ing morons at football matches with I.Q's in the sub 80 levels, the "Sun, Daily Star and Daily Sport" reading, page three gawping, numb ****s that probably need to be reminded to breathe every morning because they're so ****ing thick they forget.

Though it works both ways, I get pissed off with black people that slag off whites then believe that only white people can be racist. I don't even ****ing see the colour that's what makes me sad, I see and respect cultural difference, not something as petty as natures way of protecting people originally from warmer climes from the sun.

[an0n]

Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]Hate in any form is still hate, pity those who have it in their heart for it takes our humanity from us.
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I disagree.

Hate is humanity.

It's a mechanism whereby, as mutations and changes occur, there is an immediate opposition to them. This weeds out the shaky, weak and 'questionable' views, opinions and....ahem...races so that humanity as a whole is generally free from crap.

But, much as AIDS works, things like love and compassion have duped this process by playing to the selfish side of human nature which is based in self-preservation and the whole "Do unto others" mentality.