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Offline Lt.Cannonfodder

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on: January 17, 2004, 12:42:33 pm
 

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Reply #1 on: January 17, 2004, 01:10:22 pm
Hmm... Thats a rather odd piece of art tho. I wouldnt even call that art. Ugh, I hate modern art people. I would toss a bloody spotlight at it cause its a crappy piece of art. BUT...

Someone of such high stature shouldn't have acted that way. But come on, he wasnt suppressing the freedom of speech. He was just pissed and venting his anger.
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Reply #2 on: January 17, 2004, 01:10:25 pm
can't say I disagree with him, but it's an ambasidor's job to make there contry look good to others, and while I'm sure most Israeli will be like "hell yeah!!", there not the one's he should be trying to look good in front of.

but that was sort of like makeing a shrine glorifying Hitler
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Reply #3 on: January 17, 2004, 01:28:14 pm
He attacked a piece of art?

Surely he'd be better off throwing rock[et]s at some Palestinians?
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Reply #4 on: January 17, 2004, 01:29:57 pm
Or persuading the Israeli public not to protest about the removal of Jewish camps which are provoking suicide attacks
 

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Reply #5 on: January 17, 2004, 01:32:29 pm
That's the problem with the concept of a Jewish state. Jews see themselves are a persecuted people, so if anyone does anything even remotely against their interests, even if it's completely mundane and trivial, they kick up a fuss.
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Reply #6 on: January 17, 2004, 01:38:28 pm
Unfortunately this seems true, certainly to the outsider. From where I'm sitting, Jewish policy is extremely arrogant.
 

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Reply #7 on: January 17, 2004, 01:40:20 pm
Where in the article did it state or imply that the art piece was glorifying the suicide bomber.

IT WAS HER FACE FLOATING ON A POOL OF BLOOD.

That's not glorification, that's denunciation.

They did not print an explanation from the artist at all. They only printed "[the ambassador] said he was ashamed I was a Jew...". That's the only thing we get from the artist. Even if he WAS glorifying the wench, that's his right and this lackwit should have known better than to destroy it.

You lot are quick to leap to the worst possible conclusion (and I'm quick to leap to the most favorable, I guess).
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Reply #8 on: January 17, 2004, 01:46:53 pm
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That's not glorification, that's denunciation.
Art's subjective, so it's not exactly surprising that an Israeli diplomat would see it as any 'atrocity'.
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Reply #9 on: January 17, 2004, 01:50:52 pm
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Even if he WAS glorifying the wench, that's his right and this lackwit should have known better than to destroy it.


has anyone disagreed with this?

and it could suposedly be interpeted either way it seemed to me that it was a depiction of her triumpf over the evil ocupation by killing jews, maybe if she wasn't smileing or floating on the blood it would seem more like a denouncement. maybe it's actualy one of those peices that's suposed to bring out ones own inner predjudice
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Reply #10 on: January 17, 2004, 01:53:29 pm
A woman smiling while riding down/around-on a river/lake of blood doesn't exactly say "I'm a fluffy bunny" to me.
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Reply #11 on: January 17, 2004, 02:01:07 pm
He should've known better, especially since he was a guest of another country. Vandalism doesn't accomplish anything.

Mind you, it's not as if it took any real skill to produce this 'art', so the loss is minimal. :P
 

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Reply #12 on: January 17, 2004, 02:42:06 pm
Well, nowadays you dont need any artistic skills to make Modern Art. Hell, I'll never forget one modern Art exhibition here in finland, where the bloody artist had three blenders, ontop of two washing machines. All were on. All filled with his body fluids. (Urine, Blood, Semen. This is no joke) on one corner theres a bed with a pink phone on it and in the other a coke bottle filled with urine. You can imagine the smell after 3 days... It was the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. And people were applauding it.
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Reply #13 on: January 17, 2004, 02:50:08 pm
I remember when a landscape painting used to be considered art.

Then all the elitist ****-heads got into the business and started just trying to out-mind**** each other and find some excuse to label people they didn't like 'uncultured'.
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Reply #14 on: January 17, 2004, 02:53:04 pm
Click here  for a programme segement from swedish television. It features when Mazel "vandalize" the installation. Also an interview with Mazel in english and comments and interview with artist Fieler in swedish.   (req. RealPlayer).
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Reply #16 on: January 17, 2004, 03:21:56 pm
Well. That cleared something up. Though I'm rather shocked at how the embassador acted. I didn't think he went as far as to act like a pittle prissy 5 year old. Oh well...

But still, I think the "artist" who made that was trying to be provocative, with a touchy subject. I hate that kinda of art.
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Reply #17 on: January 17, 2004, 03:23:10 pm
Whoops. Pressed the wrong button. But still... :hopping:
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Reply #18 on: January 17, 2004, 05:08:07 pm
Hmmm... I'm not sure what to make of it, especially not after reading the text of the exhibit.

Hmm.
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Reply #19 on: January 17, 2004, 05:26:38 pm
Quite a provocative text. You know, I do not agree with her actions but I can feel for her as a human being.
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