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Offline mikhael

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I'd interpret the text of the exhibit, Sandwich as a commentary on the futility of the entire conflict, the destruction heaped ON both sides BY both sides, and the loss of innocence.

But what do I know? I'm just an observer from the other side of the world.
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yeah, I'm not sure if that was... what, uh
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All I wanna know is how does snow white fit into it?

I mean ****, with that logic I can make a piece of art with a potato with pens sticking out of it, bobbing in a drum of green water with chicken bones at the bottom and call it "Cindarella's acceptance of the night"
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Offline diamondgeezer

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Think I agrree with Mik, certainly futility is what I got out of it. We hurt them 'cos they hurt us, and vice versa. Repeat ad nauseum.

It begs the question - what is the ****ing point?

 

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Originally posted by Dark_4ce
All I wanna know is how does snow white fit into it?

I mean ****, with that logic I can make a piece of art with a potato with pens sticking out of it, bobbing in a drum of green water with chicken bones at the bottom and call it "Cindarella's acceptance of the night"


From the text Sandwich posted above: "She was also a woman, as white as snow"

White as snow - Snow White.

I think that it has nothing to do the fairytale of Snow White. I just think they where playing with words. Maybe there's a link between the faitytale of Snow White and suicidebomber Jaradat. But I can't atleast see it.

 

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All I wanna know is how does snow white fit into it?


I guess the dumbing-down of faerie tales is a universal thing.

Snow White and Rose Red (the original tale), was a gruesome, violent story intended to scare children. As I recall EVERYBODY DIES. That's what it has to do with "Snow White".
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Ah. Never heard of that one... Maybe your right...

*goes back to filling up his drum with green liquid...*
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I'd interpret the text of the exhibit, Sandwich as a commentary on the futility of the entire conflict, the destruction heaped ON both sides BY both sides, and the loss of innocence.
 


That was my interpretation.... it seems to be about the self-repeating cycle of violence to me as well.

The truly tragic thing is that, if the ambassador had just left it alone no-one would care or even know....all he's done is made himself and - by implication - his country look bad, by effectively seeking to repress free speech that he doesn't agree with.

It's exactly the sort of petty, unforgiving attitude - shared by both sides - that has made for such a perpetual conflict.  If either side was willing to forgive and forget, the first steps of peace could maybe be made.... sure, revenge is good, but it doesn't solve anything - all it does is result in revenge after revenge after revenge, and more dead people.

 
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Where does this 'repressing free speech' come from? Did he demand a censor on this artist or something?

He simply vandalised something he didn't like the look of. Accusing the guy of anything else is just pissing in the wind.

 

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Where does this 'repressing free speech' come from? Did he demand a censor on this artist or something?


Um, yeah.  He demanded the artwork be removed, IIRC.

 

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Let's pool our cash and have some Al Qaeda militant nuke the Gaza Strip for us.
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Originally posted by SadisticSid
Where does this 'repressing free speech' come from? Did he demand a censor on this artist or something?

He simply vandalised something he didn't like the look of. Accusing the guy of anything else is just pissing in the wind.


he demanded the swedish government to remove the art piece in question. something they can't, and shouldn't, do.

and mik hit it pretty right on in his interpretation.

oh, and we swedes are all anti-semite.
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It's just bizarre.......

how many people heard about this piece of art before a spotlight was chucked at it?

 

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he destroyed the so called artwork without knowing all the facts. for example i don't think the ambassador knew that the artist who made it is  born in Israel. his name is Dror Feiler.
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Apparently the ambassador said that he was ashamed and/or angry that the artist was a jew, but I'd have to find a source to confirm that.
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he destroyed the so called artwork without knowing all the facts. for example i don't think the ambassador knew that the artist who made it is  born in Israel. his name is Dror Feiler.


nah he knew, that made him angrier :hopping:

saw an interview with the Isralie foreign minister about the thing and he agreed it should be taken down only cause it looks like its glorifiying the bomber... he said if it wasnt then the faces of the VICTIMS would have been on the boat.
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you mean the woman wasn't a victim? well, I guess her family deserved to die, then.
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Everyone was a victim - I think that was the point of the text on the artwork & the pool of blood...... although maybe the point of the 'art' was to raise that issue.

Maybe it was intended to be like a Rorschach (?) test - the meaning is subjective to the viewer.

Or maybe the artist weas tying to raise a few bob by doing an art thing with a picture of a suicide bomber and then coining in in from the resulting controversy....who can say?

Who cares?

 

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Apparently the ambassador said that he was ashamed and/or angry that the artist was a jew, but I'd have to find a source to confirm that.


RTFA. Last paragraph.

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"He said he was ashamed that I was a Jew," Mr Feiler said, adding: "We see this as an offensive assault on our right to express our thoughts and feelings."
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