[Woolie Wool]

Originally posted by Drew



ever read it?

no?

then shut up

Go read the Old Testament and then put your foot in your mouth.

[Drew]

go read the new testament and learn why christians dont really care that much about the old testament

[Woolie Wool]

You can try to evade the truth all you want, but you can't make the Old Testament just go away.

Also, there were actually TWO sets of Ten Commandments. After Moses smashed the first set upon seeing the golden calf, he went back to Mount Sinai and received a very different second set (Exodus 34:12 to 34:26):

1. Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee: But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves: For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God: Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice; And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods.
2. Thou shalt make thee no molten gods.
3. The feast of unleavened bread shalt thou keep. Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, as I commanded thee, in the time of the month Abib: for in the month Abib thou camest out from Egypt.
4. All that openeth the matrix is mine; and every firstling among thy cattle, whether ox or sheep, that is male. But the firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb: and if thou redeem him not, then shalt thou break his neck. All the firstborn of thy sons thou shalt redeem. And none shall appear before me empty.
5. Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventh day thou shalt rest: in earing time and in harvest thou shalt rest.
6. And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year's end.
7. Thrice in the year shall all your menchildren appear before the LORD God, the God of Israel. For I will cast out the nations before thee, and enlarge thy borders: neither shall any man desire thy land, when thou shalt go up to appear before the LORD thy God thrice in the year.
8. Thou shalt not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leaven; neither shall the sacrifice of the feast of the passover be left unto the morning.
9. The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the LORD thy God.
10. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk

[Unknown Target]

Hehe, yea, I thought that MJ was starting to look a lot like JJ

But, anyway, who cares? I did a google image search for "Janet Jackson", and came up with about five pr0n pics on the front page

So let's just relegate this to the "wierd" category

[aldo_14]

the wierd catagory is getting a bit full, though.  Can we use the 'bizarre' or 'inexplicable' boxes instead?

[Ace]

Originally posted by Drew
go read the new testament and learn why christians dont really care that much about the old testament

Funny, because the Old Testament is used when it suits people for their own ends.

[Dough with Fish]

Gooooooooooooooood dammit. ENOUGH WITH THE ****IN JANETTE JACKSON BOOB!!!! F

or ****s sake people, WHO CARES?! Oh nooooooooooo you saw a tittie on television, ooooohohohohohohohohoh. Gah. We americans are so stuck up on this ****..... I

 love how there is a ton of campaiging going on for the next presidential election, and what is on the front page of the paper? Not the results of the last stop on the primary trail, nooooo, its about Janettes ****ing boob.... God damn it, I'd rather be beaten about the head with a stone than listen to one more word about her nasty ass tit.

[J3Vr6]

Then don't read.

[neo_hermes]

Janet Jackson was hot in the 80's - mid 90s. Let's face it JJ is getting old, and she's probably going to try and Live forever like Joan Rivers. (whoever hosted the E! Academy awards red carpet crap!)

[vyper]

I'd rather be beaten about the head by her tits.

[diamondgeezer]

If I went in for signatures longer than my posts, I'd quote that

[J3Vr6]

Who cares if she's getting old?  Vivica A. Fox is hitting 40 and I wouldn't throw her outta bed.

[mikhael]

Originally posted by HotSnoJ
What moral system would you like to use as a reference/starting point? I use the Bible.

Is that the same Bible that considers women to be chattel and tells you not to mix fabrics or eat pork -- and lists these as moral injunctions?

Seriously, HotSnoJ, if you're going to use the Bible as your moral standard, I want you to re-examine my question. A careful examination of the Bible will reveal NO (that's ZERO) entries that disallow a woman showing her breasts. It will, however, reveal several places where God says "KILLING IS BAD, MMMM'KAY?" and "THOU SHALT NOT KILL." and "LOOK, THIS KILLING THING: DID I MENTION IT WAS WRONG?"

So uh, which Bible are you talking about?

[Unknown Target]

I bet I could get top dollar for a research paper on how a discussion on Janet Jackson's boob turned into one on religion and morals...

[HotSnoJ]

Damn, I hate it when someone shows me something I can't right away prove or disprove.

After some reading I concede that sometimes nudity can be 'ok' and others not. The superbowl however isn't one of the 'ok' times. It was lude, crude, and totally uncalled for.

"Thou shall not kill", isn't a good translation of the orginal text. A better translation is, "Thou shall not murder". Not only does it better reflect the original, but it also makes sense since the Israelites were told to kill in war and to serve out justice.

[mikhael]

Originally posted by Shrike
You probably can't see it because you've been acting like mister boo ****ing humorless hoo for gods knows how long now.  Maybe you should lighten up a tad, you were much more pleasant when you weren't angerman 5000.

You may be right.

To be completely serious, what is your problem?  You've been pissy for quite a while now and it's really starting to get annoying.  You act like everything is a personal attack and let it get under your skin.  Why don't you, I dunno, do something fun and relaxing, calm yourself down some, because it certainly doesn't seem like you're calm or enjoying yourself here.

I don't think I've been pissy for "quite a while now", but I know I've been grumpy lately. I'll try to relax.  Despite appearances, I do enjoy this place. That's why I hang out here and talk about a game I don't even play, discuss politics, and make models. This is as fun I can get right now.

I've got two main problems, Shrike, and other lesser ones.  The whys and wherefores of that are not for you. Those who need to know, and those who don't don't. You're in the latter camp. As for doing something fun and relaxing and calming myself down in general, sorry, no can do.  I'll try to cool it, though.

[mikhael]

Originally posted by HotSnoJ
It was lude, crude, and totally uncalled for.

Absolutely, but it doesn't make it immoral. By the way, that's 'lewd'.

"Thou shall not kill", isn't a good translation of the orginal text. A better translation is, "Thou shall not murder". Not only does it better reflect the original, but it also makes sense since the Israelites were told to kill in war and to serve out justice.

Obviously, killing when God gives you the green light is not a problem morally. But I think you'll find that your minister, reverend, preacher, or other liturgical leader will tell you, in all circumstances, the glorification of killing is morally wrong. Go on. Ask him (or her).

Thus, I say again, America's priorities are screwed up. We're riled up about a bare, nipple-shielded breast, but its okay to trot out dead and bloody bodies to show the world how proud we are about killing a couple of guys.

[Unknown Target]

Ok, I'm gonna drop the funnyman act...

First of all, the United States of America is a country which is so curtailed by rules and regulations, that it is hard for ANYONE to understand her. In fact, I have often thought that the US's power has been weakened, not by complacence (spelling?), but instead by the rules and regulations that it agreed to. But that's off-topic.

Back to Uday and Qusay:

The public wanted to see these two men dead. They wanted to. If they didn't, they would have never believed that it was actually done. Be honest with yourselves: would YOU have believed us if we HADN'T shown those pictures? I don't think you would have, and maybe I wouldn't have, either.
You were warned that if you did not like violence, that you should look away, am I correct? You were warned that the images might be disturbing.
And you know what's really, really rich? Everyone I know that was in the area when the pics first came on, stopped and looked. When they heard "gruesome pictures," everyone around at the place I was working at (a vet's office, ironically), stopped what they were doing, and turned to look. Says something about human nature, does it not?
It's not morals, it's the fact that they needed proof, and something to drive the point home. When you hear about a firebombing at a children's hospital, you go "Oh, no, that's so sad," but when you see a PICTURE of the bombed building, it really drives the point home.

About JJ's boob:

Oh ****ing GROW UP people. Whether accidental or deliberate, it still happened, and NO ONE knew about it (unless it was deliberate, then JJ and what's-his-face did, but the network producers DIDN'T). So it's not like they could have stopped recording before it happened.
And you know what happened next? CBS offered an apology to it's viewers. They said that they were sorry to anyone who might be offended.
True, America IS uptight when it comes to skin. However, is there a problem with this? Do you really wanna go outside naked? No? Then what are you complaining about? It's not like everyone in the US gets on their hands and knees and prays to God for the forgiveness of those two people, they just go "Oh, that's interesting, show it again. It's not the people that are uptight about skin, it's the governement.




I have more points to make, but I'm out of time, and I shall make them later.

[01010]

I know I'd like to go outside naked.

[diamondgeezer]

I'm naked right now