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Offline Setekh

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Ahhh man, I love this thing. How large is it, btw? Could you post a size comparison? :)
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Originally posted by Hamano
All turrets on topside and downside are made as rotational in Modelview32,
however, I didn't see it is rotating. Why?
On the other hands, the radar dish rotates correctly.


Did you remember to include a rotation time for the turret in the ships.tbl?

If you did have a look at my turretting tutorial and check you set everything up correctly in modelview.
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Offline Setekh

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Oh, and welcome to the highlights. :)
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Very nice indeed:) :yes: :yes:
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You'll meet her or her sister in TVWP :)
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Cool...
Are you guys of TVWP going to release something, maybe a demo?
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Setekh,
Here is the comparison.
The size of Ticonderoga is very difficult thing.
I tried some other sizes many times, and finally choosed this size.
 
Karajorma,
Thanks, I will try again.

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Offline Goober5000

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Zarax: Yes.

Hamano: I think if you want the bottom turret to rotate, you'll have to physically delete it from the model and then re-add it as a separate submodel.  You'll also have to add the secondary rotating part so that the firing arm can move up and down.

I can send you our model for comparison if you want.  We had another modeller change our turret for us.  It now works exactly the same as the Fenris main turret.

 

Offline c914

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From this screnn i can see that he has 650 ore more meaters long. He's to huge.. for a cruiser:doubt:

How meany had turrets?

 

Offline Nico

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I was comparing... the fenris would fit into 3 of the orions big turrets. And those turrets hardly do anything to a fighter :doubt:
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Offline aldo_14

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Scales spot on, i reckon, although a reclassifiaction may be in order.... possibly to something like 'battlecruiser' or 'warcruiser' class?

 

Offline Goober5000

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In TVWP, it's a frigate.

 

Offline Trivial Psychic

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What kind of specs have you given her, compared to the Leviathan for example?

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Offline Flaser

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Originally posted by Nico
I was comparing... the fenris would fit into 3 of the orions big turrets. And those turrets hardly do anything to a fighter :doubt:


That's why they should be anti-capship turrets with a badass damade and a crawling fire delay.
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Offline Setekh

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Originally posted by Hamano
Setekh,
Here is the comparison.
The size of Ticonderoga is very difficult thing.
I tried some other sizes many times, and finally choosed this size.


That's perfect, thanks Hamano. :)
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I was comparing... the fenris would fit into 3 of the orions big turrets. And those turrets hardly do anything to a fighter :doubt:



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Figured this would be a good palce to ask.

  I know how to make single turrets for ST ships, but for FS ships I want to show a physical turret. Can I somehow edit a V model or some model with turrets I like and paste them on a model? then use Karajorma's tut on multipart turrets for the barreled ones and the single part tut for the V beam cannon types???

  I think I've mastered the non visual single parts for ST ships, but now I need to edit non ST ships that use traditional weaponry that can be seen.. Any tut's out there for cut and paste?
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That's why they should be anti-capship turrets with a badass damade and a crawling fire delay.


yea well for some reason every time we attempt to suggest this, it tends to get fubared along the conversation.

but if it were to be made (the cap-turrets) into "true" battleship turrets/ destroyer turrets, then it would have to be TBL'ed in. heck using cyclops pof's as a "phyiscal shell" projectile, or even if it were the "green globs" were enhanced to do more damage and hit as if it were a kenetic weapons (ie impact forces ship to jolt), thenit be a great effect.

 

Offline Zarax

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BTW, capship turret ROF is way slower than it should, even when using the highest AI level...
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Offline Hamano

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Goober5000:

Thanks, please send me your model.
I'd like to watch for comparison to rotate turret.

And GTD Ticonderoga specs:

Length: 519m (in modelview32)
Width: 87m
Height: 282m

1 x Terslash
4 x Green Beam
4 x AAAf
4 x Standard Flak
6 x Cyclops torpedo tubes
4 x EMP adv. missile launcher

I think Ticonderoga is built before GTCv Deimos.
I think,
(1) GTA wants a ship class will be placed between Orion and Fenris.
(2) Cruiser class must be smaller than Corvette class.  
Because of this, Ticonderoga length is twice of Fenris.

I love the word "Battlecruiser", however, I think Battlecruiser class (GTBc)
should be 1 - 1.5 km long.
I love the word "Battleship" also, "GTBB" class may be over 3km long.