[magatsu1]

Originally posted by Odyssey

[color=cc9900]I'm all for just letting the human species die out humanely, too. It'd solve a lot of problems.[/color]

That strikes me as an odd thing to say. What good would that do you ? You'd haved to hang out with monkeys or somethin'.

[mikhael]

Given that he's a human, he'd not be around to hang out with the monkeys.

[Petrarch of the VBB]

No matter which species is the dominant on this planet, one thing is sure.
Animals will eat other animals.

[Odyssey]

[color=cc9900]Yes. Yes, they will. Because they need to. Since we make our own food for the majority of the time, we don't. We have the ability not to have to eat meat, ever.[/color]

[Petrarch of the VBB]

We also have the ability to stick forks in our eyes. Doesn't mean we do it.

[Odyssey]

[color=cc9900]Slight difference. Sticking forks in our eyes will hurt us. Becoming vegetarian, however, is a healthy and ethical course of action.[/color]

[Shiva Archon]

Becoming vegetarian does hurt those of us who like meat.  Somehow I see the quality of my life diminishing when I can no longer enjoy my favorite foods and instead have to scarf down nuts or supplements all day to get the nutrients I'm missing.

As for evangelizing, in your very first post in the thread you were overjoyed at having more "ammunition against meat-eaters" and since have pretty much said that we're lazy, immoral creatures.  You were never berated for your choice to be a vegetarian, and your tone clearly indicates your disdain for people who choose differently.  Did you seriously not expect a response?

Don't provoke responses and then claim your innocence.  You're evangelizing.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by SadisticSid


Why would a cow need camoflauge? There's nothing in the UK that would kill such a huge animal for food. And think about it, they must have existed (in the wild) long before man used them for milk and meat.
 

Wolves - used to roam all over europe, especially in Scotland.  That's possibly why a highland coo has bloody great big horns.

[Stryke 9]

The bunch of you are being obnoxious and stupid. Really, nobody gives a **** what you eat or want to make others eat. No, really. Nobody. Except maybe a few neofascist retards who got stuck on one issue after being dropped on their head as a child and ever since have been trying to strongarm everyone into agreeing with their moronic point of view. And, if anything, those peoples' interest counts as negative-value interest. Just shut up.

More about camouflaged cows. The image of a forest-print Hereford entertains me.

[aldo_14]

[StratComm]

Hey aldo, shouldn't that be "Moo-ha-ha"?  

oh, and < rant >
Now, having grown up on a cattle farm, I can't legitimately agree with the "it's ethical not to eat animals" perspective, expecially since domesticated livestock of just about every variety are as dumb as bricks (chickens are probably the worst, but cows come really close... anyway, that's a story for another time).  Tell me being vegetarian is healthier than eating a lot of meat, then fine.  One might have an argument there.  But when one says that it's not ethical to eat animals, and therefore say that I am inethical for doing so, he is judging me on the basis of his own (skewed) sense of ethics.  It's arrogant, and I tend to resent that kind of thing.

If there was even a shred of evidence that livestock could be considered intelligent life, then I would have to re-evaluate my eating habits (believe it or not, that's why I don't eat tuna).  But until I see a cow with the intelligence of even a severely retarded person, I'm not going to have any qualms with eating a hamburger.  Any attempt to convince me otherwise is met with "mmmm.... Beef...." < /rant >

Anyway, Odyssey I don't want you to take that as being fired at you, it's just a matter-of-fact statement of my stance on the issue.  As much as I hate to bring PC into this, you do have to be careful how you phrase things, and bringing ethics into the discussion is not something that needs to be done.  It's quite easy to get someone pissed off by sounding belittling.

You mean even invalid HTML gets parsed?

[mikhael]

Exactly what Stu said.

BTW: your rant tags probably got eaten by the browser, not HLP. The browser doesn't know what to do with fake tags and will swallow them. Just try creating a fake web page with fake tags and see what your browser does.

[01010]

Originally posted by Odyssey
[color=cc9900]Slight difference. Sticking forks in our eyes will hurt us. Becoming vegetarian, however, is a healthy and ethical course of action.[/color]

So why does every vegetarian I've ever met look pale, miserable and under nourished?

This is no generalisation either.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by StratComm
Hey aldo, shouldn't that be "Moo-ha-ha"?  
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nope.  It's cow-speak for Mwu-ha-ha.

NB:  I think there are certain minerals / nutrients / vitamins that can only be obtained convetionally through meat - hence why we're omnivorous in the first place.  The only way for vegiatrians to get this is through artificial introduction - i.e. dietary supplements and additives to food.

[diamondgeezer]

Research suggests that human brains evolved to their huge-ass capacity partly due to the ammount of protein our ancestors ate, particularly from fish

[mikhael]

Originally posted by 01010


So why does every vegetarian I've ever met look pale, miserable and under nourished?

This is no generalisation either.

You've met the wrong vegetables. My wife is anything BUT undernourished or miserable (she's pale, but its the good kind of pale). We shop at an organic grocer with a large vegetarian shopper base (its why we chose the place) and most of the vegetables there don't look pale, miserable and undernourished. Some of those vegetable chicks are damned hot.

[redsniper]

PETA is... evil. They're more like terrorists than activists. I read an article one time about how they were handing out happy meals with mutilated chickens in them and stuff like that; they finally got asked to leave when kids started crying. It's just... messed up.

[Odyssey]

[color=cc9900]What would PETA be doing handing out mutilated chickens? That strikes me as somewhat wrong.[/color]

[redsniper]

Ya, I know what you mean. I don't mind people being vegetarian or trying to get animals treated more ethically, PETA just takes it way too far.

[kasperl]

well, i see no problem with eating meat, only with battery farming and bio industry.