[mikhael]

Word. Battery farming is pretty ****ed up. If you can't grow enough meat AND treat the animals in a reasonably humane way and do it cheaply, then don't. I don't care if meat prices go though the roof. I'll pay more.

Besides, you'd really be surprised at what you can do with TVP (textured vegetable protien, AKA soy). Before anyone goes 'gross!' or 'dude! soy sucks!', you eat it every time you eat at McDonalds and pretty much ever other fast food chain. Its the source of 'fillers' listed on so many food labels. Its great stuff. You can make it taste like ANYTHING.

[Stryke 9]

Yeah. Of course, there's a profit motive involved, nothing to do with what the consumers prefer, so we don't really get a lot of choice in the matter.


Anyone else find it wierd how many plants can be used for basically anything? Soy, peanuts, hemp...

[mikhael]

If I believed in a god that actually gave a damn, I'd say it was a Sign from on high. But since I don't, I'll just say that its a sure sign that mankind produces some pretty smart, creative sorts who can figure those kind of things out.

[Stryke 9]

Now, if someone can figure out a simple way to make high-energy explosive from grass, I'll be happy. At least, until I'm incinerated along with half of the block. Then I'll be more along the lines of ex-happy.

[kasperl]

soy, i won't say it's  gross, but some of it's end-products are less then perfect.

OTH, some if it is pretty nice.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Odyssey
[color=cc9900]What would PETA be doing handing out mutilated chickens? That strikes me as somewhat wrong.[/color]

PETA also spent time handing out leaflets to children at schools in the UK, telling them not to drink milk.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1525042.stm

[01010]

"Sue's milk-drinking led to her battle with zits. Humans can have all sorts of gross reactions to cow's milk. When you give cows a break and clear you're conscience, you'll get to watch your skin clear up too!"

What a bunch of dicks, I mean, I don't drink milk or eat dairy simply because I can't stomach anything dairy but each to their own, plus, as far as I recall, isn't milk pretty damn important for children as most of them don't get calcium any other way?

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Exactly. Do they want people to grow up with ricketts?


*realises that ricketts isn't caused by calcium deficiency, but can't think of anything that is*

[diamondgeezer]

Dentist bills... calcium good...

[Zarax]

Originally posted by Stryke 9
Now, if someone can figure out a simple way to make high-energy explosive from grass, I'll be happy. At least, until I'm incinerated along with half of the block. Then I'll be more along the lines of ex-happy.

Just wait until a cow finish its digestion process...
Never, never smoke behind a cow...

[aldo_14]

Cows generate enough methane gas in a year to fill a hot air baloon.

[Zarax]

Damn, you can just use them to prouce juice...
Ever heard of biogas powerhouses?

[diamondgeezer]

Mmm, freshly-squeezed cow juice

[Odyssey]

Originally posted by aldo_14
PETA also spent time handing out leaflets to children at schools in the UK, telling them not to drink milk.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1525042.stm

[color=cc9900]That's equally as wrong in one way, but better in another. My main objection with the mutilated chickens one was, well, mutilated chickens. PETA shouldn't be handling mutilated chickens, it's supposed to be against their principles.[/color]

[Stryke 9]

So against their principles that it's a rather suspect anecdote, in fact. Unless you've got some wierd-ass insano wing of the PETA out where you live, they wouldn't do that, plain and simple.

[TrashMan]

McDonalds fries taste like plastic... 99.9% of their stuff tastes like plastic or something undefined..

I have bee neating "normal" food for most of my life and home-made fries (from a normal, non GMO potato) tastes a LOT better than that crap!

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Stryke 9
So against their principles that it's a rather suspect anecdote, in fact. Unless you've got some wierd-ass insano wing of the PETA out where you live, they wouldn't do that, plain and simple.

Doesn't PETA membership imply 'wierd ass isano', though?

[Stryke 9]

No. It implies activist politics, something the world could frankly use more of. Maybe if the PETA's street theater tactics were more widely used, voter apathy wouldn't be so widespread and hence we wouldn't have lovely things like Geneva Convention-violating prison camps, the Patriot Act, widespread destruction of what very few wild areas the US had left, and a probably endless chain of mindless wars that accomplish little but fertilizing the ground with Arabs and Americans.

I understand it's fashionable to bash people who do more than sit around and whine about politics, but that doesn't mean it's justified in the least.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Stryke 9
No. It implies activist politics, something the world could frankly use more of.

Not to me *shrug*

I find it very hard to regard PETA as anything more than another fundamentalist-type group, like the anarchists who turn up at every G8 meeting with the purpose of making the world a better place by setting fire to cars and breaking windows.

[Stryke 9]

...And you have no clue about what the anarchists are trying to accomplish, either.


Yay for our wonderful news media, who doens't give a **** about anything unless it has a body count. And yay in particular for people who don't pay any mind to anything but the sensationalist shrieking they hear on the TV. Where would we be without them. Where indeed...