[Flipside]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040220/ap_on_hi_te/downloading_music

Don't worry everyone, build a bunker under your house, and the moment you hear the X-Files theme approaching from a distance, just dissapear into your secret world-domination CD copying lab

Heeeesh! Yes, copying is illegal, but people used to copy to tape before that. Why won't they figure out sales are dropping because they are producing 90% crap?

And of course, if you have downloaded the music, how in the hell are you supposed to see the label anyway, you have to buy it legally to be told it's illegal to download it

[kode]

I'd guess I'd understand them if sales were actually dropping, but they aren't.

[Flipside]

They assume that this $12 Billion they are 'losing' is because if people couldn't download the music, they would naturally go out and spend money which, in most cases, they don't have, to buy it.

Which just goes to show how important it is to shoot marketting consultants on sight.

[Odyssey]

[color=cc9900]I never saw the point in singles, anyway. Personally, I wouldn't consider it worth the effort to go across my room and find a case, bring it back, take out the CD, put it in the machine (while taking out the one already in there and finding its case) and hit play, just for one track. Let alone pay good money to get that CD in the first place. And apparently, the music industry's greatest losses are in the singles department.

Maybe people are just realising what a shoddy deal they're getting now that there's an alternative?[/color]

[aldo_14]

Singles are an easy way to screw the kiddies (er, in a monetary sense), because the 12-year olds buying **** pop records can more easily afford them than albums.  More and more people are waking up to this, though - hence the drop is singles sales.  IIRC, in the UK album sales are still rising, tho.

[pyro-manic]

Agreed. Singles are only worth buying when they're EPs, like the new metallica one (the Unnamed Feeling). Costs about 5 quid, but it's got the single and about 6 live tracks as well, so it's like a mini-album. Otherwise they're ****.

I have to say that I personally don't download music, 'cos if I like the band then I'll buy their cds, if I don't I won't. But each to their own. I like the iTunes idea - you pay to d/l tracks, but it's really cheap - much cheaper than buying a cd.

[an0n]

I don't buy music. Period.

[magatsu1]

singles usually have b-tracks and live recordings, which is nice.

[Odyssey]

[color=cc9900]The B-sides and live songs usually end up on "Best Of" albums anyway.[/color]

[magatsu1]

Depends on the artist I 'spose

[Petrarch of the VBB]

The last time I bought a cd was about 6 years ago when I'd got a CD player for Christmas and wanted something to play on it.

I then had no interest in music whatsoever for about 5 years, and then got broadband, and thus, Kazaa. Now I can't live without music.

Killing the music industry, eh?

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Odyssey
[color=cc9900]The B-sides and live songs usually end up on "Best Of" albums anyway.[/color]

Along with previously unreleased songs so they can really f**k over their fans and make them pay £14 for an album full of songs they already have just to get hold of the one song they don't.

[Janos]

GEEZ, OUR PROFITS RISE BUT THE NUMBER OF SOLD RECORDS FALL

GUESS WE SHOULD RISE THE PRICES DUHH AND SUE THOSE WHO DOWNLOAD OUR LATEST HITS LIKE BRITNEY SPEARS DURRRRR

Yay for indie labels and those who actually release music.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by karajorma


Along with previously unreleased songs so they can really f**k over their fans and make them pay £14 for an album full of songs they already have just to get hold of the one song they don't.

Well, that's what you have P2P networks for, innit?

[Rictor]

Oh woe is me. Now I can't download stuff anymore. Its not just discouraged anymore, its sternly discouraged.

I bet the RIAA people are throwing all sorts of nasty looks in my general direction. Or, or they could even call my parents! How would I ever be able to continue my life if my secret criminal activities were to be exposed. I would be shunned by the community. Shunned! Then I would die a sad and lonely death in a gutter somewhere. All becuase I wanted to listen to music.

Won't someone please think of the children!?

[Rictor]

teh funnay

[01010]

Just don't tell Stealth this thread exists, he thinks it's ok for the RIAA to sue 12 year old girls (especially if they are overweight).

[karajorma]

Originally posted by aldo_14
Well, that's what you have P2P networks for, innit?

Kind of proves my point though doesn't it. The record companies are quite happy to screw over their biggest customers to make a quick buck and yet the cheek to complain if someone tries to do the same to them.

[kasperl]

14 quid for a CD in the UK? if i got the exchange rate right, that's about 20-25 euro's, right?

and once again, how much of that cash goes to the artist?

[Petrarch of the VBB]

I believe "Sod all" is the appropriate term.