Originally posted by Liberator
Everybody knows that it was only a matter of time until Hitler developed The Bomb and dropped it on England, that's assuming he didn't invade first. With Britain out of the way, Hitler could have focused on Russia, which if he had The Bomb, with jet powered bombers, would have been a smoking crater as well. Europe would be speaking german today, had it not been for America. Learn history.
You first.
By the end of the war in 1945, Germany had an incomplete nuclear bomb programme, which he attempted to send to Japan (by u-boat).
alongside, Hitler had a programme known as the 'Amerikabomber', intended to drop a nuclear bomb on New York. The prototypes for this bomber were all at least 5 years from completion (the creators of one were recruited by the Us for their expertise and worked with NASA on the Saturn V rocket amongst others).
i.e. Germany was never near to developing either a nuke or jet bomber in time to avert the Russian victory.
Russia own their end of the war without difficulty - they wer emanufacturing
8 times more tanks than the Germans were, and inflicting massive losses in Stalingrad (IIRC it cost the Germans several hundred troops to capture a single street, maybe more). coupled with the Russian winter, it was inevitable that the Germans would be pushed out - regardless of the allies involvement.
Not to mention that Britain had repulsed the Luftwaffe by the Us military involvement. you could say the Us provided aid with arms, but those were sold and practically bled Britain dry of resources - including when the Us sent a destroyer to an British colony to pick up gold bars, the last 'bankable' resource left.
Would the Germans have been defeated without the US? Yes - the russians had vastly superior numbers, and the german economy could not sustain the war.
Would Britain have been invaded? Probably not by the Germans, it;s hard to say what the russians would have done.
Should we be grateful to the US? Of course - they were allies -they did the right thing.
Are we indebted to the US? Of course not. It was always in the Us interests to become involved - this was a world war. Even if the Us had not intervened, they would have eventually been faced with either a German superpowerr (unlikely), or a USSR covering the entire continent of europe. Not to mention the inevitability of Japan attacking at some point. And the US made a fair few bob selling arms to the UK, anyways.
