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Offline aldo_14

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Shame about the mapping mistakes, natch.  I notice one there in the front, immediately.  Although it was only about my 3rd or 4th 3ds max built ship, IIRC.

 

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I've been working like crazy, re-doing some of my older ships and making new ones..

Expect at least 6 ships for download within a few days!
- the new Lancer Assault Carrier
- the new Excalibur Missile Frigate
- the new Shrike vasudan heavy fighter
- still unnamed pirate bomber/fighter
- Splendid calss Medium Liner
- still unnamed Pirate Carrier
- new Sizifus calss Super-Freighter
- Eagle calss Dropship

MABY MORE...
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Just because its flat doesn't mean its ugly. The Narn Cruiser and the Centauri Cruiser from B5 are both flat like pancakes and they both kickass. The Narn ship is the best looking one in the show.

 

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The proper designation for a carrier (of any classification) in FreeSpace is GTCa.  I ran in to the same problem with my Phoenix carrier model.
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Last edited by StratComm on 08-23-2027 at 08:34 PM

 
Actually, the proper designation for a carrier should be Cv. Ca, or CA means Heavy Cruiser not CArrier. As all 'carriers' in FS are 3rd party additions, I don't believe that there is any 'proper' designation that must neccesarily be followed unless the designer wishes to keep the model inline with existing MODs.

 

Offline Knight Templar

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How does CA mean Heavy Cruiser? :wtf:
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Hmmm,..having problems with my Pc....That might postpone my plans a tad...
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Offline Janos

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How does CA mean Heavy Cruiser? :wtf:


Well, BB is battleship.. ;) They're quite weird nominations.
lol wtf

 
Actually BB is a simple one. Basically each designation is started with a first letter denoting its class, F for Frigate, D for Destroyer, C for Cruiser, B for Battleship etcetera. And then a second letter follows to further define its role. If the letter repeats itself it means that its just a normal ship. so BB is battleship, CC is cruiser, and DD is destroyer.

But the extensions are stuff like
H for Heavy, L for Light, A for attack, assault , E for escort, G for guided missile etcetera.

So DH is heavy destroyer, CL is light Cruiser, FEG is an escort frigate with guided munitions, CVH is a heavy carrier, etcetera. Looking at my reference it seems that CA is infact Attack Cruiser, but in my experience CA usually means Heavy Cruiser as I don't recall ever seeing a CH. There's also a few exceptions to the rule like:

DN - Dreadnought
BC - Battlecruiser (under normal schemes BC would be a mean a cargo-carrying Battleship)

If you check out this page: http://www.datasync.com/~mtg02/ you can find all of the ship designation crap. On the left hand bar go to "Procedures" (second from the bottom) and then in the frame click on "Ship Designations"

Note - if the guy really wants "strike carrier" the proper designation would be CVA it seems. Though if I were him I'd just do CV as from experience, 'strike' always seems silly. If he wants something imposing, CVH (Heavy Carrier) sounds more brutish.

Further Note - Interestingly enough, under 'special' designations J is added for command or flagships, so CCJ is a command Cruiser. Given Freespace's shorter code (GTC instead of GTCC) Volition may have unintentionally given the Sathanas a Command ship code if you look at it as a designation rather than an abbreviation (SJ could be Shivan Command ship instead of Shivan Juggernaut).
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But because Volition diverges from current Naval designations with a) their shortened designations, b) the altered relative sizes of cruisers and destroyers, and c) the fact that Corvettes are already using the Cv designation, the proper designation for Freespace-era Carriers would be "GTCa".  So :p
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Last edited by StratComm on 08-23-2027 at 08:34 PM

 
the proper designation for Freespace-era Carriers would be "GTCa". So

   Actually I think the proper designation in Freespace for a carrier is GTD, GVD, or SD, but a lot of 3rd party mods (Inferno comes to mind)  have taken the term 'carrier' to basically be the equivelant of a super destroyer with even more fighters and even more guns.

    A carrier, in my way of thinking, is a ship designed to carry lots of fightercraft, not to engage enemy warships, but rather to have a ton of little escorts around it at all times to protect it from bad guys.

    The GTCa designation, as its used now, is simply redundant. The GTCa Warlock from Inferno really doesn't have a role different from the Lucifer, it really should be the GTSD Warlock or the GTVA Warlock to follow the Colossus' trend (though its not unique).

   Btw, I had forgotten about the Cv designation used for Corvettes, though I'd noticed it before. A Corvette should actually be FL (light frigate).
Speaking of which, is the NTF Iceni the Neo-Terran Front Iceni or the Neo Terran Frigate Iceni. I'd guess that its the former, though the text describes it as a frigate there's really no other evidence for a new class of warship. Though I do like the resulting GTFf Saphah idea in Derelict. Where I'd envision the Frigate designation to mean a Corvette-sized vessel with Destroyer-sized anti-ship weaponry (and no fighters).

 

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My carriers are the smaller variety, less heavily armed than the destroyers but with more fighters.  I too think Inferno misused the designation.
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Good point Akalabeth Angel...Like the way you're thinking...

Well..the Lancer can't be a heavy carrier, since it's relativly small in size (1.5km) compared to the real heavy carrier (Galaxy, 3km).
However, it has 4 fighterbays + 1 hangarbay and very powerfull weaponry, but weak hull.
So it's basicly a hit&run vesse...an Assault Carrier....
So GTACar...or GTCarA...or GTACV?...
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Well it sounds like GTCa is the common carrier name as GTCv is already used for Corvettes. From the sounds of things, it sounds like your ship is basically a freespace-style destroyer. If you really want to distinguish it you could call it GTDL or GTDA (light or strike destroyer respectively) but I wouldn't go more than five letters, or else it gets silly.

 

Offline TrashMan

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Duh...well the naming convention isn't quite the most important part (Since it can be altered in 5 secons tops)

Wel..normaly a strike/assault carrier would be weaker, but this is a SOC assault/strike carrier.

And against a Hecate it loses more often than not...
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Originally posted by Akalabeth Angel
the proper designation for Freespace-era Carriers would be "GTCa". So

   Actually I think the proper designation in Freespace for a carrier is GTD, GVD, or SD, but a lot of 3rd party mods (Inferno comes to mind)  have taken the term 'carrier' to basically be the equivelant of a super destroyer with even more fighters and even more guns.

    A carrier, in my way of thinking, is a ship designed to carry lots of fightercraft, not to engage enemy warships, but rather to have a ton of little escorts around it at all times to protect it from bad guys.  


Exactly, but I would change the lots of little escorts to a few big ones, preferably corvettes and destroyers. A Deimos or Moloch will rip through cruisers with ease.
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