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Offline Su-tehp

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An excellent ad. Instant bookmark, indeed.

Next question: what can we do about this, besides voting Democrat?
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that information has 100% veracity
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.  I've got a nice bridge to sell you, by the way.

Considering how partisan the entire issue is, I don't trust anyone regarding it.  Considering the arguments I've read over it before, I'm quite sure I could find some 'vote irregularities' of equal magnitude perpetrated by the losing side.

Not that I'm particularly fond of what Bush has done, but there's a lot of things the Democrats do or would do that I can't say I like either.  'Course I'm not American so it doesn't matter.

Hell, here.  Something from the other side.  Knock yourself out.
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Offline Bobboau

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vote Libertarian :)
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I voted Marijuanna in the last provincial election, cause they didn't have Green in my city. :p
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vote Libertarian :)



only if you want to have bush in office again



Nader should be completely ignored -- right now our votes are better spent voting strategically to get bush out of office
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Offline Bobboau

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to hell with it, I don't like Bush, but all the democrats are just full of shjit.
at the very least he's good at blowing **** up :nod:
they won't do anything that we won't be able to un do in a few years.
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Offline Kazan

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the dems won't tred all over human rights, etc

kerry may be an ass -- but he's better than bush
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Offline aldo_14

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at the very least he's good at blowing **** up :nod:
 


wasn't that the problem in the first place?!

 

Offline Su-tehp

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Nader should be completely ignored -- right now our votes are better spent voting strategically to get bush out of office


I wouldn't worry about Nader. He's not running as a Green this time, he's running as an Independent, so he won't have any party's backing. He might not even be able to get on the ballot in most states. Nader's impact will be minimal.

However, I just heard some good news. Roy Moore, the Alabama "ten Commandments" judge, was recently approached by the conservative Constitution Party to be their presidential nominee. Lots of conservatives are pissed at Bush for not toeing their line enough and it's possible that if Moore were to get into the race as the Constitution Party nominee, he could draw enough votes from Bush to throw the election to the Democrats.

Wouldn't that be a nice, ironic twist of fate? :D
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Originally posted by Shrike

Considering how partisan the entire issue is, I don't trust anyone regarding it.  Considering the arguments I've read over it before, I'm quite sure I could find some 'vote irregularities' of equal magnitude perpetrated by the losing side.

Fortunately, Shrike, the details of the case are backed up by unconcerned third parties (IE a british newspaper) as well as several independent studies done here in the US. Given that the various reports agree on the major details and many of the minor ones--without referencing each other--I'd say that indeed, the details are accurate.

The illegally disenfranchised voters are a matter of the public record and are easy to verify for any US citizen. The changes in Florida voting laws are on the record, and are verifiable by pretty much anyone willing to look. The lists sent to the database company were voting rolls, and as such are a matter of the public record and can be requested by any citizen.

One fact that was not listed in that little flash thing was that the database company was told to use Soundex to match names as well. Soundex is a system by which phonemes are matched to mathematical abstractions. These abstractions are matched against each other to find words that 'sound alike'. Its a notoriously inaccurate system generating a rather huge (upwards of 25%) rate of false positives. Thus, if your name 'sounded like' a convicted felon according to soundex, you were removed from the rolls as well.

Not that it actually matters. Facts are irrelevant when all you want is to sell the country a lie.
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Offline Bobboau

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I wouldn't exactly call British media 'unconcerned third parties', at the very least they are concerned, hell they wouldn't have done that report if they wern't
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Offline karajorma

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Neutral parties then :)
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Offline Bobboau

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neutral could be debated, though I don't particularly feel like doing that at the moment.
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Offline Kazan

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public records are not debatable though - and this is simply a matter of public records
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Offline mikhael

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"unconcerned" as in "have not stake in the outcome"

The British media gets a story either way. They don't have a stake in either candidate.

Regardless, if you're really, really concerned, Bob, the facts are out there and available to you as a US Citizen. All it'll cost you is some cash to get copies of the relevant documents and some time analyzing them.
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Offline Bobboau

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what's a better story,

Bush won fair and rightly,

or

SCANDAL!!! EVIL conservitive militaristic corprate whore steals the American government and subjegates the populace into his theocrtic dictatorship! were all DOOOMED!!!
and you WILL DIE, if you don't buy our paper and read about it
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Offline 01010

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How about just reporting the news. Not all UK papers are out for scandal.
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Offline Kazan

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Bobboau: Your argumentum is MOOT

The information in the flash is widely known public records
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Offline Bobboau

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but you will admit that at least some of them are, therefore declairing a newspaper neutral or unbiased or any other synonem, simply becase it is UK based is incorect
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Offline karajorma

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True but when it is one of the more truthful and accurate papers. One which is respected in other countries then it's a reasonable assumption.

Besides as Kazan is probably getting tired of saying the details are all available to the general public without having to go through a newspaper.
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