Author Topic: space ships should be on fire (Read 5868 times)

Nuke · **Reply #20 on:** February 26, 2004, 06:40:14 am

its mostly about causing damage that lasts after you stop shooting at it. but eyecandy is good too. its good for spraying subsystems, the enemy gets to slowly watch them count down to the point of failure.

Setekh · **Reply #21 on:** February 26, 2004, 07:16:01 am

The only issue would be, it would kinda screw with the balancing for ships in stuff like the main campaign, that are supposed to survive for certain amounts of time but end up being completely slaughtered by the bombers. You'd have to compensate by updating the hull strength of every capship in the game, but it would still be a big gameplay changer.

diamondgeezer · **Reply #22 on:** February 26, 2004, 09:33:41 am

I wouldn't mind seeing fire purely as eyecandy (rather than damage a modifyer), so that when a big ship breaks up the exposed decks burn, even if only briefly while the O2 is used up

ChronoReverse · **Reply #23 on:** February 26, 2004, 09:48:12 am

You know, you'd think that armor which is designed to withstand plasma beams and nuclear explosions, both of which are many times hotter than any fire (or any chemical reaction), would burn when hit with "mere" napalm.

If it were true, an awesome weapon would be the "oxygen" TAG bomb.

Upon impact, it releases a gel oxydizer and TAGs the target for a single beam attack which sets the ship on fire.

That said, it would look cool.

Kazan · **Reply #24 on:** February 26, 2004, 10:29:07 am

INCOMING CHEMISTRY

actually you cannot "Burn without air" - combustion [burning] is an oxygen specific reaction

you can have other exothermic reactions that don't involve air - but you cannot call them burning

Lightspeed · **Reply #25 on:** February 26, 2004, 10:35:07 am

naaaah...

But burning atmosphere leaks when badly damaged would own. Screw the whole damage crap.

Nico · **Reply #26 on:** February 26, 2004, 10:52:17 am

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Originally posted by ChronoReverse
You know, you'd think that armor which is designed to withstand plasma beams and nuclear explosions, both of which are many times hotter than any fire (or any chemical reaction), would burn when hit with "mere" napalm.

If it were true, an awesome weapon would be the "oxygen" TAG bomb.

Upon impact, it releases a gel oxydizer and TAGs the target for a single beam attack which sets the ship on fire.

That said, it would look cool.

In fact, those hulls can withstand even anti-matter bombs, but they'll die from a beam ( after some time ) that cannot kill a fighter in one shot, which can be killed by a well placed missile, which can deal no real damage to a capship.
Go wonder.

karajorma · **Reply #27 on:** February 26, 2004, 11:51:05 am

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Originally posted by Kazan
INCOMING CHEMISTRY

actually you cannot "Burn without air" - combustion [burning] is an oxygen specific reaction

you can have other exothermic reactions that don't involve air - but you cannot call them burning

Not true Kazan. Any reaction which results in a flame can use that term. A good example is burning hydrogen in chlorine to produce hydrogen chloride.

Check the entry for hydrogen chloride

diamondgeezer · **Reply #28 on:** February 26, 2004, 02:33:05 pm

Quite right Kara. Not that I care too much - gaining my A-Level in chemistry kind of killed my enthusiasm for the subject

karajorma · **Reply #29 on:** February 26, 2004, 02:45:27 pm

My degree was fine but it was when I did research after that when I lost my interest in the subject. I was always very good at theoretical chemistry but I soon discovered that I couldn't get a practical experiment to work to save my life

To be fair I still like chem as a hobby but I no longer want to do it as a living.

magatsu1 · **Reply #30 on:** February 26, 2004, 02:57:02 pm

I think it was Babylon 5 that said Terran ships would burn red 'cos of the oxygen present, but the alien ships (I forget the race) burned green (or something) 'cos they had some trippy gas instead.

I don't know how likely that is, but it does seem a bit, uh, "unlikely" ?

*EDIT* I always liked Physics myself

Nico · **Reply #31 on:** February 26, 2004, 03:40:29 pm

why not? if a gaz is burning green, and the ship is full of it, it makes sense it'll burn, well, green.

TrashMan · **Reply #32 on:** February 26, 2004, 04:25:56 pm

It doesn't have to burn...it could be gas leak.. How knows what those high-tech ships carry...and even in space if you releaase green gas it will look allmost like something is burning green (vacum wull suck it and it will give it that fire effect)

Boy..this explenation sure sucks!:D

ChronoReverse · **Reply #33 on:** February 26, 2004, 04:35:05 pm

@magatsu1

You know, some things burn weird colours like purple, green and blue even in oxygen....

Turnsky · **Reply #34 on:** February 26, 2004, 05:21:29 pm

okay... think star-trek, insurrection, then the Enterprise was venting plasma(i think) via the bussards..
or other countless ST episodes where the ships vented something out into space.

Bobboau · **Reply #35 on:** February 26, 2004, 05:34:42 pm

yes fire looking stuff is good,
but a blob of burning stuff stuk to your ship burning it, isn't.

HellToupee · **Reply #36 on:** February 26, 2004, 06:56:46 pm

having it as a dammage effect would be great causing dammage nar waste of time, but it would be great if the ships on its last legs that it would look it. Homeworld 2 dose it pretty well.

Carl · **Reply #37 on:** February 26, 2004, 08:21:44 pm

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Originally posted by Turnsky
okay... think star-trek, insurrection, then the Enterprise was venting plasma(i think) via the bussards..
or other countless ST episodes where the ships vented something out into space.

in that case, we already have that. it's called particle spew.

IceFire · **Reply #38 on:** February 26, 2004, 09:53:09 pm

Yeah it just needs to be

cooler if we have the power to do it now.

It'd be nice if a ship was pretty banged up it'd be venting some kind of cooling, plasma, reactor fluid....some kind of stuff. It can be a colored gas...not "fire" persay. Also would be nice if it were somehow textured or something....

Bobboau · **Reply #39 on:** February 26, 2004, 10:12:58 pm

I'm not against the eye candy of a ship spewing plumes of firelike whatever. but the point of the thread was to have a D3 napalm cannon, a weapon effect, with gameplay issues

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