[Grug]

thanks Trivial Psychic

hmm I do think FS2 can only go so far... perhaps newer engines / resources are a better idea...

but i do like the idea of a FS2 honour release, with upgraded graphics etc...

-Grug

[DragonClaw]

Originally posted by Nuke
blablablabla

And we'll publish it under your name so you're the one that gets sued.

[Grug]

rofl

claws are out...

[kode]

Originally posted by Grug
How ironic that the name is already 'FREEspace 2' hehe. maybe just call it Free? lol

an ol' VBB joke of renaming of fs was LibertyCosmos...

[Martinus]

Originally posted by Nuke
it would be cool to put up a stand alonte total conversion of the game, essintially a freespace clone, without any of the original data, just the fsopen exe and 100% user created data that could be put up for free to download. would that be legal?

[color=66ff00]One of the long term aims of the Freespace Upgrade Project.
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[HotSnoJ]

OT, "freespace" is the technical term for subspace in the game. FYI.

[Bobboau]

no it's (suposedly) the term for normal space

[Darkhill]

This what we are doing now, converting everything over to a Star Wars theme.  It uses the 3.5.5 code as a base with some mods by me and all our own data files.  We've got half the interface done and quite a few models.  We are removing all the ingame audio and stuff that goes with it (hopefully replacing it with our own).  Only files from the original we plan are using will be some table files.  We will probably end up fixing them up a bit so we aren't "copying".

[Unknown Target]

Wait a minute...
This is just a question, don't kill me:

If a group/person removed all the old data files, all the stuff made by volition, and made something based on a completely different universe, using the SCP as our exe, could it be released as a full commercial game?
I mean, the source code would HAVE to be public (under the GPL liscence), but could someone do that?
Or is something like that prohibited by [V]'s release terms?
It would be an interesting prospect for TC makers

[Bobboau]

you might be able to come to some agreement with V alowwing it, assumeing you made totaly new stuff.
and gave me a generous royaly

[Unknown Target]

How much would that be?

[Bobboau]

half
well hows this sound V gets 50% profits, we get 25% and you get the remaining 25% -expenses

[Unknown Target]

V getting 50% No, I think it should be split more evenly. about 33.3 for each.
I'm saying that because, althouh [V] programmed the engine, it's not their game, so they shouldn't get most of the profit, the producer of the game should. Same thing with the SCP project, if the game maker chooses to use the SCP enhancements (duh they will ). Or 30, 35, 35, respectively.

And that's a good deal for all parties, considering. For instance, you can go and get Torque for 100 dollars (per programmer), and not have to pay ANY royalty fees, unless your game makes over 500,000 in profit, where then you have to buy a full corporate liscence of Torque (a relatively low $100,000)

[Unknown Target]

I just sent this to the webmaster at [V].


Hello, I'm ____ _____. I'm a mod maker for one of your most acclaimed games, Freespace 2.
I am inquiring about licensing that graphics engine, in order to facilitate releasing my mod as a full game. I would like information regarding the cost of the engine (for a single programmer and for a full commercial license).
I would also like to know if there are any royalties that would have to be paid? Such as a certain percentage to Volition, based on how much the game makes?
Lastly, would it be possible (or allowable) to include the Source Code Project enhancements (www.3dap.com/hlp) for use in the full version, as long as they are also paid a certain sum?

 

Thank you for your time,

_____ ______

[phreak]

10 bucks says they don't respond

[Unknown Target]

You're probably right. Does anyone have a more direct line (other than a phone #) that bypasses the webmaster?

[Lightspeed]

Originally posted by Bobboau
no it's (suposedly) the term for normal space

nope, he's right. subspace = freespace.

[aldo_14]

'tis in the ref bible;

When scientists discovered what used to be called “FreeSpace” (now referred to as “subspace”), an alternate plane of existence allowing ships to traverse great distances of space in little time, our minds reeled with the possibilities. When humans first discovered they were not alone in the universe, there was dancing in the streets.

(I know, I know - i'm being pedantic.  But anything's better than the reality of work.....)

[Inquisitor]

The terms of the license expressly forbid commercial exploitation of the engine. If you want to make a commercial game, and are willing to put that much time into it, use an engine that allows for commercial distribution.

Also, I think any emails to webmaster@v get sent to dev/null

The PXO people can be a bit too persistent

[Setekh]

Originally posted by Inquisitor
The terms of the license expressly forbid commercial exploitation of the engine. If you want to make a commercial game, and are willing to put that much time into it, use an engine that allows for commercial distribution.

Ferrium?