[Nuke]

or do i need to ubershivanitize it. textures are about 75% done and so far it only has !10 turrets. is it cool for conversion?

[ryuune75]

sj stands for super juggernaut?

[karajorma]

More spikey! The basic shape is pretty good though.

[Bobboau]

to thick
to smooth

[Nuke]

i thought so, i clustered a bunch of spikes in the tail. but i dont think thats enough. once converted i intend to cover it in glow effects. im still not satisfied with it. any crotique will be noted.

[Deathstorm V2]

Not a criticism, but a request:  Can we have another angle?  The front looks kind of confusing at the moment.

[Nuke]

i thought about doing an interior that you could fly through (even to the extent of having little shian inside with one of thouse beam things to shoot at you with). here's the extra shots.

[karajorma]

Remove the thrusters. You put them on in a different way for large capships.

[Janos]

Still too snakey. Terrans use cardboard boxes.
Vasudans use fishes and snakes.
Shivans use spikes, centipedes and skeletons.

You could try to Sathanize it - make those forwards spikes protrude from the hull a bit more. The rear part could use some Demonization, basically making it stronger and taller.

Now I realize how stupid SD Demon and SJ Sathanas sound like.

[Nuke]

i definately am going to work on the tail, the sides in particular, but im pretty happy with the front (mainly because thats where ive completed most of the uv mapping). this is the first time ive textured a ship as i created it, this technique has become more tedious than usefull.

[aldo_14]

Looks more 'ordered' than a Shivan ship should, IMO.  Too many curves and smooth bits.... I've always felt the Shivans are about harsh edges, i.e. chaotic ships that look like something you would use to gouge an eye out.

[Taristin]

make it look like you beat it with a shovel, then it'll be done.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Janos
Shivans use spikes, centipedes and skeletons.

Like the demon?
No, Nuke: take something from the nature, preferably some crustaceous beast, or a part of skeletton from some animal ( if the Lucifer is not based on a spine, I don't know what it is ), cut the useless bits, then build from there.
And about the spikes... the best shivan models are far from being edgehogs.

[c914]

I realy want to see this ship as corvette not as juggernaut.
Model is good:nod:  but its to smooth for a shivan ship

[adwight]

Too symmetrical, especially with those huge curves.  That's my only complaing with it.  The front is also too boxy.  Spikes are your friend .

[pyro-manic]

Too regular. Raa had it right - hit it with something heavy a few times. Then cross it with some kind of arthropod (multi-legged beastie ) and it'll be awesome. Organic is the way to go with Shivans.

[Nuke]

truspace really needs a shouvel tool . i think im going to embed a few triangular plates into the sides of the tail loop. the tailspikes seem a little too curvy, so im gonna distort them a little.

[Nuke]

ive added some jaggedness to the model, more sharp edges and bugitized the spikes. i intend to add about 4 more spikes in the forward section.




has anybody had a successfull tunnel running through a capship beofore? im thinking of a mission where you have to destroy a forcefield over the fighterbay to gain entry, then fly through the tube to a compartment in the tail where a reacter subsystem will be placed. i figure it would be fun to do whilest the ship is moving. the ship would be the lucifer's predicessor, shields and all. in the mission the ship would invulnerable untill you blow up the reactor, then a fleet of capships jumps in to ice her.

[Janos]

"Han can do it, but we gotta give him more time!"

The frontal spikes are still too boxy, otherwise much improved and actually good-looking.

[Nuke]

im not screwing around with the front, the textures in that part of the ship are done and i dont want to redo them. however i might still add a few more spikies up there. its amazing how such a subtle little change can really improve a ship.