Trashman, this is another one of those topics wherein you should be absolutely silent and resist hitting the REPLY or QUOTE buttons until you have some sort of clue as to what we're talking about.
Some wolves and hawks (specifically in species that mate for life) do, indeed, form permanent homosexual mate pairings, including sexual activity. This has been observed in the wild.
Further, you are woefully undereducated as to how homosexuals engage in sexual relations. Your stereotypical, ignorant, heterosexual idea that gay sex is exclusively anal sex is in error. Not only does this leave out other methods, but it blatantly ignores the fact that more gay couples engage in oral sex than anal sex.
Originally posted by Sandwich
While some may argue that Humans are just self-conscious animals, paralleling animal behavior with Human behavior - and even worse, using animal behavior as an excuse for Human behavior - is insane.
If wives started eating their husbands before sex, would you all of a sudden label it as "natural", just because the preying mantis does so?
Continue thinking along such lines, as unfortunately I don't have time to compose a more complete reply - gotta go to work.
Oh tsk, tsk, Sandwich. You're recharacterizing things in silly ways. Last I checked every species exhibiting sexual duality pairs off (permanently or not) for mating. Not all species exhibiting sexual duality feature females that devour the males. After all, I have sex with my mate, and so do monkeys. Does that mean I shouldn't do it just because an animal does? Of course you can reach for extreme examples. Homosexual behavior, however, is neither extreme, nor bizarre.
No one is 'Using animal behavior as an excuse for human behavior'. However, science and common sense both agree that parallelism between sentient and non-sentient organisms is a good way to establish if something is natural or not, normal or not, or insinctive or learned.
Eating meat is natural, despite what PETA might tell you. You can see that this is the case by looking at the natural world. Pairing off in more or less permanent relationships is natural and instinctive: it happens in animals in the natural world. Homosexuality is obviously both natural and instinctive, since it takes place naturally and instinctively in nature.
This might come as a shock, by the way: humans are a part of the natural world. We're not seperate from it. You are, no matter what you might think or believe, just an animal, albeit an advanced and complex one. To believe that, somehow, that animal behavior has no bearing or relation to human behavior is the worst of hubris.
