[Bobboau]

http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/blackwater/fs2_open_Bobboau_3-21-04.zip

see if the issue with texture loading in game time (things spaz out for bout half a second when you look at a ship for the first time) still is happening.

[Singh]

ok. got a few missions I can test this on too

[Bobboau]

something with a lot of (diferent) ships that you don't start out looking at

[kasperl]

like the first mission of the FS2 campaign

ill test this when my PC is booted.

[Bobboau]

well that one you start out looking at them,
the _last_ mission of the FS2 campain isn't a bad one though, all those ships are just off to your right
compare results to the other recent build that I put in the corect forum.

[kasperl]

what about those hercs, the hat and the deimous in that mission?

BTW, -allslev doesn't work if you haven't played at least one mission of a campaign.

[Singh]

ok. wont work.

I try to turn to look at Omni's akira, but it STILL slowed down like before - this time it was worse, since it ate up all my Virtual memory, gave me the expanding virtual memory message, made me click ok, switched to desktop and then give me a program error when I tried to switch back.

Plus the mission loading time was HUGE.

[Bobboau]

as compared to the other exe?

[kasperl]

loading times have indeed increases, especially the part where the laoding anim is - .. (only the first dash and 2 dots) which is the texture part as far as i know.
edit: looking at different nebs, and firing weapons for a first time, will cause a major slowdown.
also, looking at a fighter turning to a newly warped in fighter gives me some slowdown, if the fighter is viewed for the first time in mission or not. but looking at a cap (the psamtik in this case)  gives me no slowdown.

spec still doesn't work on my card, btw.

[Bobboau]

by how much?
a whole damned  lot?


the other exe that sould be used as controle
http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/blackwater/fs2_open_r_Bobboau_3-16-04.zip

if you are running out of memory (not in game) hit ctrl-alt-del (this is in XP BTW) go to procese, close everything else you have running, kill explorer, everything exept your desktop background will disapear, go to the applications tab, left click in the white box and select new task, type in explorer, everything should come back to life and you should have nearly no memory used.

[kasperl]

i am typing this while flying around, but the slowdowns are less then the old ones, call it .25 seconds. explosions stopped causing slowdown as well.

[kasperl]

loading times have increased by, i dunno, 50 or 60 percent compared to 03-05, and 200% compared to FS2 retail.

[kasperl]

interestingly enough, the 3d ship select causes me to not see anything in the ship select ani window. it's just empty.


edit: turning towards that iceni rock thingy causes slowdown as well. explosions observed from under 300 meters seem to cause slowdown too, however, that bellisarius blast didn't cause any, but that was observed from long range.

[Bobboau]

so the in game slowdowns have been niticably reduced?
good

[RandomTiger]

What have you done?

[Bobboau]

well when you told me to fix the spec mapping comand, I realized there was abolutely no slow down when you looked at stuff, then I though, well there must be some were were the defuse textures are getting loaded but the others arn't so I spent about two hours rooting through all the diferent code paths for models that get loaded and stuf untill I came uppon the ship page in textures function were I saw that the defuse maps were getting paged in but the glow and spec maps weren't, so I had them page in, and it seems that a lot of the slow down is gone now.

so, textures don't actualy get loaded from the hard drive untill they get locked for the first time.

[kasperl]

texture mem usage has dramaticly reduced too, now i look at it. this is truly great, commited yet?

[Bobboau]

it has?
as compared to 3-16?

[RandomTiger]

Yep, the normal ship textures are forced to lock a load time though.

You should make sure any textures you are adding to the system get cached at that point as well.

[Bobboau]

I thought I had done this already is the odd thing