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Offline Singh

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on: March 27, 2004, 09:11:04 am
Ok. Fleetwars has now changed its name to Freespace 2: Conflict Zone (fscz for short).

A lot of things are being re-vamped and worked upon, including a new fight system and templates which uses LS's maps and planets. Our current main site is here, but soon it will be shut down and moved on over to http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/fscz/ in a few day's time.

Once we've come up with a satisfactory (and maybe rudamentary) system, we'll be taking on testers! From the screenshots gallery, you can already see that template maps are being worked upon, and that is just the beggining :)
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Offline Rictor

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Reply #1 on: March 27, 2004, 09:20:48 am
Alright, now excuse my ignorance, but this system will work exactly like Squad War did right? I mean, when its finished. Will the node map layout be the same as in SwuadWar, or is someone comming up with a new one.
 

Offline kasperl

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Reply #2 on: March 27, 2004, 09:22:55 am
Rictor: read the site, ok?

We are changing quite a lot, actually. we are adding a bit of a resource system, and players af capships to command.
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Offline Rictor

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Reply #3 on: March 27, 2004, 09:47:07 am
Oooh, THAT site.

Yeah, right.
 

Offline Kazan

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Reply #4 on: March 27, 2004, 09:54:14 am
official my ass
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Offline kasperl

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Reply #5 on: March 27, 2004, 09:56:46 am
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official my ass

where the **** did we proclaim this was official in any way?

also, if you are going to set up your own SW, you can off course do so, but we can just as well set up this. And if people think just SW is better, fine, but if you are protesting to us even trying, then why is there the SCP? Yeah, we just want normal FS2, otherwise it isn't the same any more.....
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Offline Singh

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Reply #6 on: March 27, 2004, 09:57:19 am
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official my ass


ummmmmmm.........my fault in putting this. kasperl, tis in the first sentence I typed, and I'll quote myself:

Quote

Well, its official.


Sorry, this was my mistake. will edit it now.
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Offline Kazan

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Reply #7 on: March 27, 2004, 09:58:28 am
kasperl: if you want to modify the gameplay you fork the codebase like an insanely unwise person

"setup my own SW and see if people like it" rotfl... consdering i have control over the masterservers i'll be the only one with automated tracking, etc
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Offline kasperl

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Reply #8 on: March 27, 2004, 10:01:46 am
didn't you release the server code?

also, who said we would change any gameplay in the source? we only wanted a few extra logging options, and then we'd use PHP.
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Offline kasperl

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Reply #9 on: March 27, 2004, 10:03:05 am
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Originally posted by Singh


ummmmmmm.........my fault in putting this. kasperl, tis in the first sentence I typed, and I'll quote myself:



Sorry, this was my mistake. will edit it now.


hell, we can make a name change official, can't we?

i hereby officially declare my nick is Kasperl.

that didn't have any ****ing influence on the bloody code, now did it?
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Offline aldo_14

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Reply #10 on: March 27, 2004, 10:04:17 am
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kasperl: if you want to modify the gameplay you fork the codebase like an insanely unwise person

"setup my own SW and see if people like it" rotfl... consdering i have control over the masterservers i'll be the only one with automated tracking, etc


Don't you think that part of the point of releasing the code was to allow the game functionality to be developed in several, not necessarilly inclusive, directions though?
 

Offline Kazan

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Reply #11 on: March 27, 2004, 10:04:47 am
i haven't written the SW stuff

a lot of the tracking you want to do will requires _HUGE_ changes to the innards of the game - fork the codebase if you want them

PS: just because the server is released doesn't mean it will suit your purposes - your little "resource management" crap -- go play an RTS
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Offline kasperl

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Reply #12 on: March 27, 2004, 10:07:10 am
Kazan, if you have any complaints about our ruleset, you can either voice them in a normal, polite way or shove em up your ass.

on the code, i can not judge your views, so i won't.
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Offline an0n

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Reply #13 on: March 27, 2004, 10:10:51 am
Kazan, once again I am in awe of your ability to make new friends. :lol:
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Reply #14 on: March 27, 2004, 10:36:24 am
I don't mind RTSes - i mind them trying to turn FS2 into one
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Offline kasperl

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Reply #15 on: March 27, 2004, 10:41:14 am
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I don't mind RTSes - i mind them trying to turn FS2 into one


no one said you would be forced to play it, never mind help us. We asked for help. Now, in your view asking is probably just a useless form of politeness someone would do when he really needs something and doesn't dare to demand, but most people see it as giving a person options.
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Offline Zarax

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Reply #16 on: March 27, 2004, 10:44:15 am
Kazan, that was pretty much unavoidable...
When you (you as a SCP, i do not know who did it) added the extra campaign variables you laid the base for it...
Resource management adds depth to the game, and it's a demostration of the flexibility of the FS architecture...
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Offline aldo_14

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Reply #17 on: March 27, 2004, 10:44:51 am
Let's all calm down a bit, eh?  

Kazan, I understand your reservations, but if this is done in a way that doesn't impinge upon the gameplay of FS2 - even if that implies / requires a clean break from the SCP codebase into an alternate version - I don't see why it should be a concern.
 

Offline kasperl

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Reply #18 on: March 27, 2004, 10:47:00 am
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Let's all calm down a bit, eh?  


sorry.

I just got agitated. There have been quite a lot of discussions with the AD guys developing FW (a real RTS without flying yourself FYI).
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Reply #19 on: March 27, 2004, 10:50:16 am
You are the most argumentative person I have ever met, and since this includes myself, it is quite a feat.
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