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Offline kasperl

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Reply #20 on: March 27, 2004, 10:51:11 am
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Originally posted by Rictor
You are the most argumentative person I have ever met, and since this includes myself, it is quite a feat.

good or bad?

i try to keep myself under control, but i sometimes seem to loose grip.

anyway, aside form disccusions about the concept itself, has anyone actually checked the site?
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Offline Rictor

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Reply #21 on: March 27, 2004, 10:52:14 am
Not you, Kaz.
 

Offline Tiara

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Reply #22 on: March 27, 2004, 10:55:26 am
ROFL! :D The way this thread was started was plain hilarious. :D

Anyway, good luck to you guys on getting this thing going :)
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Offline kasperl

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Reply #23 on: March 27, 2004, 01:10:59 pm
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Originally posted by Tiara
ROFL! :D The way this thread was started was plain hilarious. :D
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eh?
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Anyway, good luck to you guys on getting this thing going :)

you are not going to test, right?
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Offline Tiara

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Reply #24 on: March 27, 2004, 01:22:55 pm
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Originally posted by kasperl
eh?

The cursing and name calling and all over some moot issue :p

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you are not going to test, right?

Eh, no. :p Sorry, but Squad War and the likes is just not my cup o' tea. Nor is FS online as a whole. Just not my taste.

Might try it later if I really have nothing else to do but sit around here...
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Offline Starks

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Reply #25 on: March 27, 2004, 11:04:57 pm
Kazan worked his ass off to bring FSO online... The last thing I wanna see is Kasperl fubar the netcode.
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Offline Kazan

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Reply #26 on: March 27, 2004, 11:24:03 pm
:)

sometimes im grouchy and just won't put things diplomatically
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Offline Starks

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Reply #27 on: March 27, 2004, 11:34:01 pm
Kazan, you don't need to be diplomatic... The FSNetD client isn't even 100% complete and the these guys want to leech off your work. They should be patient and wait until we have a stable online network. Kasperl, be a good boy and stick to PXO for FS:CZ... It's something we all used to do in the past to tie us over.

Also, if we are talking about new names... I'd like to see Hard Light Network (HLN) as the Release Candidate name for FSNetD.
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Offline kasperl

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Reply #28 on: March 28, 2004, 02:36:36 am
Ok, I am removing the original content of this post. I got mad, and I went too far.


LLL, please, I know Kazan worked hard on this code, and I didn't say anything about editing anything myself. I was asking if code changes were possible.
If our work is "leeching of the SCP guys" then the same goes for LS, Carl, and all the MODders using it. You can go tell them right now or keep silent about us. Also, everyone needs to be diplomatic if we don't want flamewars. I wasn't all that friendly in this post, not before I edited it. If anyone wants to see it, PM me.  It was an example of useless flaming, and I don't want to happen here. If you are a coder with intimate knowledge of the Netcode and Kazan's tracker systems, then please explain to me how we could output mission events to a file. Otherwise, refrain from patronising me, and either help us out or leave us alone.
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Offline an0n

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Reply #29 on: March 28, 2004, 02:38:20 am
No more sugar for you.
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Offline Knight Templar

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Reply #30 on: March 28, 2004, 02:48:19 am
I'd call it the GTD Angrytard.
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Offline Singh

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Reply #31 on: March 28, 2004, 04:26:01 am
Actually - we dont need code changes. All we would need is something to parse or log events into a .txt file - something which will be immensly usefull to any FREDders as well as us, especially when it comes to the annoying mission testing.

heck - even if you can get out a raw output log from the events, it should be enough for someone to parse it externally :)
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Offline Zarax

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Reply #32 on: March 28, 2004, 04:41:00 am
Weren't persistent variables already implemented?
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Offline kasperl

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Reply #33 on: March 28, 2004, 04:43:20 am
peristant variables, yes, but no way to output stuff to a txtfile on a server....
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Offline Zarax

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Reply #34 on: March 28, 2004, 04:46:20 am
Well, don't they would work on client side?
I admit that this creates lots of redundancy and would make the thing hackeable with ease but it should work *goes and takes a look to the code*...
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Offline kasperl

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Reply #35 on: March 28, 2004, 04:48:33 am
yeah, but how do we parse that? from what file?

If someone could even use debug calls or something to output those actions to a txt file, somewhere, we'd be happy.
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You cannot defeat Windows through strength alone. Only patience, a lot of good luck, and a sledgehammer will do the job. --StratComm
 

Offline Zarax

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Reply #36 on: March 28, 2004, 04:52:43 am
It's one of the new FRED features IIRC...
I read some discussion in the SW forum about implementing them...
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Offline kasperl

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Reply #37 on: March 28, 2004, 04:56:56 am
i know about persisten variables, but AFAIK they are stored in either the campaign or the pilot file. neither can be easily parsed from a server side, and it would require players to actually chop up some stuff themselves....
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you haven't learned masochism until you've tried to read a Microsoft help file.  -- Goober5000
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You cannot defeat Windows through strength alone. Only patience, a lot of good luck, and a sledgehammer will do the job. --StratComm
 

Offline kasperl

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Reply #38 on: March 28, 2004, 10:39:50 am
now, aside from coding issues, is anyone interested in helping us?

We need Testers, FREDders and PHP/Webdesign.
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You cannot defeat Windows through strength alone. Only patience, a lot of good luck, and a sledgehammer will do the job. --StratComm
 

Offline Kazan

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Reply #39 on: March 28, 2004, 11:04:08 am
if i can extract the log text and send it to the server i will do that for you - because then everything becomes server side
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