[Unknown Target]

Originally posted by Nico



pb is, they don't have control

No one does, that's the whole point of this thread

[Zarax]

Originally posted by Drew

Its our invention. We keep it. (Just like the nuclear bomb was our invention. We kept it, we didnt turn over those over to the UN, thank goodness.) Just like when the government in France makes somthing big, there not gonna want to give it away to some other country or organization. Dont ***** the US cuz they have controls to somthing everybody else wants. Give a case of US abuse of the internet widespread.  So far, we havnt caused any problems.


yeah but when theres a story on the news about a kid who bought a gun on the internet, then went out and shot somone, then watch all the legitimt gun sites get put into regulation.

Fine.
Give us back Phone and Electricity (invented by Meucci and Volta, two italians). We will see how you will play with your toys then...

[Ghostavo]

*wonders how much longer will it take for a greek to ask for democracy back*

*thinks*

*realises that to the US this wouldn't mean much*

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Stealth


look at the statistics of some of the internet backbones and servers to the US

ACtually, i was referring to the user distribution.  Whilst the Us is probably still the largest nation in terms of internet-use, there is sufficient usage in the rest of the world to make decentralised control desirable.

[Drew]

Originally posted by Zarax


Fine.
Give us back Phone and Electricity (invented by Meucci and Volta, two italians). We will see how you will play with your toys then...

 
w/e thats not the point. When those inventors inveted that technology, there was no UN to take it away from them. Should we give all the technologys that contribute to society worldwide to the UN? If france or any other country had inveted the internet, they would have control of it the same way the US does, they would be reluctant to give it up to the UN. Im not saying we should not share the internet, but keep what we put together.

besides... i would rather have germany or the NL control the internet then the UN.

fyi i think sweden or the netherlands has the highest concentratioin of net users....

[diamondgeezer]

I don't think I've ever witnessed so much bull**** concentrated in to a single thread before

[ChronoReverse]

I haven't seen such a perfect blanket statement ever.

[Zeronet]

The thread radiates arrogance lol.

[Zarax]

Originally posted by Drew

 
w/e thats not the point. When those inventors inveted that technology, there was no UN to take it away from them. Should we give all the technologys that contribute to society worldwide to the UN? If france or any other country had inveted the internet, they would have control of it the same way the US does, they would be reluctant to give it up to the UN. Im not saying we should not share the internet, but keep what we put together.

besides... i would rather have germany or the NL control the internet then the UN.

fyi i think sweden or the netherlands has the highest concentratioin of net users....

Internet is more controlled by private corporations than by states...
Just think about who gives you your web space...

[Kazan]

anything you can dream of the US Gov doing to screw up the net the UN _WOULD_ do

[Zarax]

Kazan, is there any organization you trust?
I'm just curious...

[Kazan]

yes

[Flipside]

Giving anyone control of the Internet is utterly unfeasable. It would totally destroy the meaning of it, it's as simple as that.

I've been online since I used to run a Phone-In Amstrad CPC Bulletin board, and if theres one thing that it's always been about, it's about that Freedom which would certainly be lost if it was regulated in this way.

[Liberator]

As much as you Euros don't trust the US Government, I don't trust the UN twice as much.  They butt in entirely too much in international affairs and I have yet to see them handle something as easily or cheaply as individual governments could.

Other critics say ICANN is too slow in making decisions and adopting new technology, like ways to transmit Chinese and Arabic characters. VeriSign has sued the organization, saying it is standing in the way of lucrative new services.

Define too slow, if they don't handle things just right the clog the plumbing for the whole world, do we want that?

ICANN is a private organization that reports to the FCC much like every single radio and television station do.  To say that the FCC has some kind of undue influence over them is sheer idiocy.

[Grey Wolf]

I don't trust either the US government, the UN, or ICANN to handle the internet.

[Flipside]

ICANN = I Can't

Unless the Internet is left as free Media, it will never ever survive, that's the bare thruth of it. It will end up requiring so much authorisation and confirmation that no-one will ever bother any more,

Besides, let's take an example, porn, Britain has an age of consent of 16 years, whereas there are some members of the UN who consider ages in ranges from 13 upwards. How do they propose to regulate child porn, for example, if they can't even decide what a 'child' actually is?

[Ghostavo]

Even if someone were to take "charge" of the internet, would that be even possible?

[Zarax]

Taking control of the internet is as easy as creating an unbreakable anti piracy protection...

[Flipside]

I think the first step they would make is to make the Internet into something completely different. As it stands, it is unmonitorable, theres just too much. I suspect the Internet will be changed drastically to make sure that not one single website can be put up without some kind of core authorisation (plus administrative fee, of course).
Basically, I think the web would probably become one massive Pay-Per-View site.

[Ghostavo]

That is like changing the whole purpose of the internet... it wouldn't remain as the internet but something else.