[jdjtcagle]

Originally posted by Kazan
/me gives mik an odd look.... Quakers and Mainlain liberal protestantism over secular humanism....


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I don't see how you call yourself liberal jdj - liberals tend to be pro-human rights

What do you mean, Kazan???

This is me

[mikhael]

Originally posted by Kazan
/me gives mik an odd look.... Quakers and Mainlain liberal protestantism over secular humanism....

Hey, I'm as surprised as you are.

[Kazan]

jdjtcagle: weren't you arguing against gay marriage the other day?

Originally posted by mikhael


Hey, I'm as surprised as you are.

I wouldn't be suprised if the system just grades poorly

[jdjtcagle]

I HATE gay people!!!
I know that it says that in there but, It's against the bible and nature

[Kazan]

you are admittedly a homophobic bigot

against the bible I'll agree with

How do you say it's against nature - if it's against nature it would surely only occur in our species (WHICH IT DOES NOT, It happens in a great number of species well beyond the primates, well beyond the mammals even)


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why do you hate them? what have they done to you?  How does their existance cause a problem for you?

[mikhael]

Oh, not this again, Kaz. He's probably just repressing latent homosexual urges. Leave him alone. Its really not worth the trouble to go through it all again.

[jdjtcagle]

I dont know how, yes I'm homophobic bigot ...
Gay is all in the Mind I thought this has been proven

As for animals and Humans, Humans are the only ones who can control there instincts, as for animals cant
Edit: and Mikhael never been there and don't want to

[Kazan]

Originally posted by jdjtcagle
I dont know how, yes I'm homophobic bigot ...
Gay is all in the Mind I thought this has been proven

No, the opposite has been proven --

there is a very miniscule percentage that are psychological - but trying to 'reprogram' them would do more harm than anything.

Originally posted by jdjtcagle
As for animals and Humans, Humans are the only ones who can control there instincts, as for animals cant

Why should they? if the individual is naturally homosexual why should they? Not to offend some people who believe unsupportable claims from a religious book? No, that would be a violation of their rights.


You don't have to like them, you just can't descriminate against them

[mikhael]

Of course not, jdt. Methinks the lady doth protest, too much.

[jdjtcagle]

Are you serious!!!

Your saying that a school teacher or someone
Can't be fired because there gay???

[Kazan]

jdjtcagle: YES - that's a violation of human rights and the US Constitution

why would you want to anyway - gayness isn't contageous, children raised by gay couples have the same exact rate of growing up gay as children raised by heterosexual couples

their gayness isn't going to somehow rub off on your children, they're not out to get you or your children.

[jdjtcagle]

apocalypse take me now...
Me hates the world:(

No offence to anybody, but...
nope shouldn't post it..nope

[mikhael]

Besides, the Simpsons have taught us that if you try to keep your child from catching TEH GAY, you'll just end up in factory full of gay factory workers dancing to C&C Music Factory under a sign that says 'The Tool Box".


I think it was 'The Tool Box' anyway.

[Rictor]

Yes. What they do in the bedroom has no affect on their profession. You can be just as good a teacher whether your are a Democrat or Republic, Black or White, Gay or Straight, Man or Woman, Christian or Mulsim, short or tall and so forth.

[Kazan]

Why?
What is your big problem with homosexuals?

You said "it's unnatural" and were shown to be wrong
you said "it's psychological" and were shown to be wrong
You probably were worried that letting them live their lives promotes homosexuality - you were shown to be wrong
You probably were worried that they were somehow out to get your children - you were shown to be wrong


What is your big issue with them?

[mikhael]

Actually, that really depends on what sort of Christian you are. some of them are reallly really bad at teaching science.

[jdjtcagle]

Occording to my belief other people's sexual preferences should not bother me, but they do... they just do

[Kazan]

mikhael: pretty much all of them are

your beliefs can affect your ability to teach, but being homosexual isn't a belief

[jdjtcagle]

Couldn't those whacthamacollets you were talking about taht have something to do with gayness,  Could it not be caused by mental health...
I mean you can make yourself sick if you really believe your sick

[Kazan]

jdjtcagle: that's probably just fear of the unknown - you should try getting to know one.

The thought of it kinda grosses me out to - it will gross out anybody that's not into that.  The thought of being heterosexual grosses out a lot of gays too.  

I have several gay friends, sometimes it's a little weird being around them - but they never hit on you, etc.  They know you're straight and so they know that hitting on you would gross you out most likely  (actually If a gay guy tried to hit on me I would take it as a compliment and politely tell him that I'm straight - and i don't know a single gay guy who wouldn't apologize and stop hitting on you)


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occasionally someone is gay out of psychological reasons, it's not often but it does happen.  trying to "reprogram" them would do more harm than good.

almost always it's due to genetic predisposition.  I talked to one lady the other day who was a total fundamentalist christian and taught her son that gays were evil, yada yada - but he grew up gay - it's just how he is.   [She's no longer fundamentalist christian]

Did you know the Vice president's daughter Mary Cheney is a lesbian?