[Stealth]

what do you think of it?  is it worth buying/playing?

[Ghostavo]

Fall of Nations more like it... gets boring after conquering the world... nice idea about the cities, but the actual strategy component is not so good as the battles become one huge confusion. Best nuclear explosion effect I've seen in a game thou...

And does anyone here who played this game liked the whole troops transforming into boats and then to troops again to cross a river or sea?

[Stealth]

hmmm so overall not worth it

[Ghostavo]

I don't like it but overall many gaming sites like it, so I am confused about my own opinions about this game. Example, Gamespy and Gamespot praise this game like there is no tomorrow but I haven't found the actual reason for this praising aside from the city thingy.

[aldo_14]

I think it's a cracking RTS - one of the best I've played.  the balance is pretty perfect - it's designed to encourage attacking and risk taking.  For example, you can;t build impregnable defensive walls - which means you have to push outwards and capture territory to create buffer zones.

 Plus the game itself changes to reflect the progression of times - you actually have to completely rethink how you play with the progression to artillery/guns, to aircraft, etc.  And there's loads of other tactical nuances, like entrenching troops, or using covert ops to secret take out SAM bases before bomber strikes

And you get nukes.

Sriously, you can't go wrong.  Although I'd wait a few months - the expansion pack may bring about a reduction in price.

[an0n]

Or he could just *muhububrhrghasruhsaasdm* it for free.

[01010]

Originally posted by an0n
Or he could just *muhububrhrghasruhsaasdm* it for free.

Did you just vomit?

[.::Tin Can::.]

This game kicks SO MUCH ASS! BUY IT! Not to mention that it drives away from "building the biggest, baddest, most POWERFUL UNIT and then killing everything with it" kind of gameplay. You need a balanced army, good artilery backage with support vehicles, and throw in a general to boost morale as well as experience. Then, it's off to the battlefield.

No more puny big-unit combat, it's time to add some STRATEGY!

[Ghostavo]

Originally posted by .::Tin Can::.
Not to mention that it drives away from "building the biggest, baddest, most POWERFUL UNIT and then killing everything with it" kind of gameplay.

What RTS have you been playing?

No more puny big-unit combat, it's time to add some STRATEGY!

Same as above but with one quote of mine

the actual strategy component is not so good as the battles become one huge confusion.

The strategy behind this game is getting the most modern units and quatify them to the max. So no, it's not getting the best unit, it's getting the best units and as many as you can... so much strategy!!

[Stealth]

Originally posted by 01010


Did you just vomit?

no, that's our code for "Download"

Roger that an0n

[Drew]

Originally posted by Stealth
what do you think of it?  is it worth buying/playing?

oh yeah, its worth it. Its like age of empires/empire earth/warcraft 3/C&C generals

Besides aoe, RON is like the most kickass rts ever

[.::Tin Can::.]

Originally posted by Ghostavo


The strategy behind this game is getting the most modern units and quatify them to the max. So no, it's not getting the best unit, it's getting the best units and as many as you can... so much strategy!!

More like, what have YOU been playing.

You obviously haven't played the game, because every unit exceeds another.

Pikemen Owned By Archers
Archers Owned By Javelineers
Javelineers Owned By Pikemen

As well as the introduction of calvery, each unit has advantages against the other. There is no ONE powerfull units. None. Get a bunch of tanks? Owned by anti-tank rifles and other tanks. Get a bunch of infantry tanks? Owned by Tanks and Anti-Tank Rifles. I seriously doubt you have played this game or else you would know what I'm talking about.

And yes, games play a lot on big units, therefor making strategy stupid when you have big units.

[Ghostavo]

If you had actually bothered to read my post you would know what I'm talking about. Tell me, what RTS has uber units such as the ones you described?

In the example you just gave, you would just buy the cost efective of each of the units you described so that you would have a varied army (in this case, the best units that I meantioned are the counters). Strategy games are supposed to have a tactical side (as in battle management), RON does not, it just throws units into the fray.

Like I said, so much strategy involved

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by .::Tin Can::.


More like, what have YOU been playing.

You obviously haven't played the game, because every unit exceeds another.

Pikemen Owned By Archers
Archers Owned By Javelineers
Javelineers Owned By Pikemen

As well as the introduction of calvery, each unit has advantages against the other. There is no ONE powerfull units. None. Get a bunch of tanks? Owned by anti-tank rifles and other tanks. Get a bunch of infantry tanks? Owned by Tanks and Anti-Tank Rifles. I seriously doubt you have played this game or else you would know what I'm talking about.

And yes, games play a lot on big units, therefor making strategy stupid when you have big units.

Not to mention the bonuses for attack from the flanks / rear - which encourages skillful use of am**** tactics.

[Liberator]

Such "uber units" have always been fairly weak and special purpose.  
Example: The JDA Juggernaut from Dark Reign 2

[Falcon]

Rise of Nations is a good game but is not one of my favorites. Nuclear explosion effects are good and you have a bunch of different units one age you could have a superior unit advantage vs their troops but in another they could have the advatage over you. Another thing about the game is it has a built in script editor somehow I can't find the help file for it. IMHO wait till they have an expansion for it. Now if youll  excuse me I have to launch 50 nuclear warheads at the Aztecs cause they just broke their peace treaty with me and have just sent several Jaguar Infantry to invade my land.

[Drew]

Originally posted by Ghostavo
RON does not, it just throws units into the fray.

Like I said, so much strategy involved

your right, but thats the fun part. You sound like a major C&C fan. RON is meant to be brutally fast because older RTS's are just slow and boring resource hoarding economic machines. RON is fast paced; can be chaotic and it can get nastsy when moving units. But when u play it its incredibly streamlined, balanced and fun to play. Its not for the person who cant make a few hundered clicks in 5-10 minits, or make battle groups, or cant organize units, or ignore things like formations, or cant use his noggin to outwit a computer opponet.

[an0n]

Originally posted by Stealth
no, that's our code for "Download"

Roger that an0n

Noooooooo!!!!!! You have revealed the secrets of The Code™[/u][/b]

According to the Ways of the Warezer you must now commit "53ppp0ok0o!!!!1111111".

*hands Stealth a ceremonial AYB dagger and a webcam*

All profits will go to....*mutters inaudibly*.

[Stealth]

i apologize, i won't reveal the secrets again... if you'd like i can edit my post.  

*grabs dagger from an0n and commits s3p0ok0*

all proceeds from the above videotaping shoudl be used (by an0n) for the furtherment of our cause.   :devil:

.  or just distribute it on Kazaa

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Drew



your right, but thats the fun part. You sound like a major C&C fan. RON is meant to be brutally fast because older RTS's are just slow and boring resource hoarding economic machines. RON is fast paced; can be chaotic and it can get nastsy when moving units. But when u play it its incredibly streamlined, balanced and fun to play. Its not for the person who cant make a few hundered clicks in 5-10 minits, or make battle groups, or cant organize units, or ignore things like formations, or cant use his noggin to outwit a computer opponet.

Remember - you can issue orders whilst paused in RON.  It's one of the major factors in what  makes it so good, IMO.