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Offline Tiara

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I did, and it seemed every time I tried I still got pwned. Not to mention unit speed is also critical, and my reavers just could NOT keep up with the Hydralisks... sad, sad times...

As for the basis of RoN having NO strategy, I should slap you. Trust me, I've tried running into the middle of someones base and just tried to kill everything all at once and I got MURERED. Amassing one big-ass group of units and smacking them right in the middle will make you die. Unless, of course, you mix and match your units and have them set up, like generals making decoys in the front. Or, you could do like I love to do, and have two seperate groups, one armor division and another standard infantry division. The artillery roll in from the most promising side. Usually the infrantry. Afterwards, you level two cities and your borders expand and their decrease.

The game BOASTS strategy, and I'm beginning to think you guys either only played the demo, or never played it at all...

I got the game, set it to the highest difficulty and had no trouble whatsoever swarming my opponent after building enough units.:blah: Most of the time I'd just send two or three groups of units to tear apart the enemy. This is is about as much startegy as you can get out of this RTS. (At least, the most strategy you'll need. Anything more and you're just making it difficult on yourself).

Also, I rarely use arty. For some reason they don't like me too much. I just rolled and waltzed into their town from two or three directions (depending on their size).

Again, I personally didn't need much tactics or strategy. :blah:
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See this is why I still love Homeworld. Tactics matter.

 

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argh quit arguing about stratagy. All you really need to know about RON is that its solid. Maybe not that revolutionary; but it does introduce new things (like the nation borders stuff).  I happen to like C&C generals a little more tho :P
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Offline Tiara

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Thorn: :nod:

Drew: It might be solid but personally, I find it a bit boring and too static. But as I said, it's basically a matter of taste (as it is with all games).

I like C&C when I am in need for some pointless tank slugging :p And if I am in a very frustrated mood, some pointless UT fragging, which is void of any tactic whatsoever, will do :D
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Anyone who liked C&C Generals Tank Sluggin experience wont like a game with the hard-hitting strategy and fast commanding it takes for RoN.


I must be weird, I love the C&C series ( didn't play general tho, but I assume it's the same ) but I love games like dark omen as much...
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Offline Tiara

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I must we weird

If you write like that, yes. :p

Anyway, I don't pay much attention to such generelizations. They are just not true. As simple as that.
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Offline Nico

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Ah, like you never make typos :p
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Offline Tiara

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Ah, like you never make typos :p

Mee? Tipoos? Naaahh... Nott mee! :p
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Against the AI, in any (or at least most) games you don't need much tactics... against a human oponent... well... that is quite different.

Here are some battle reports for you to see... the first 4 are the most detailed (for obvious reasons).

http://www.battle.net/scc/br/
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Offline Corsair

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I like Generals. Who needs tanks when you've got Commanches and Tomahawks?
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Until I see him wipe the floor with a computer on "Toughest" difficulty mode, there's no chance in hell I would believe it. You're max unit count is 200, meaning you can't just "swarm" the enemy. One on One match on the toughest difficulty on standard rules. Until I see that it's impossible not to use artillery and tactics to take the computer out.

If it's the demo, they didn't perfect the AI all the way. Just from Easiest to Moderate, or so I believe...

 
All strategy 'AIs' cheat. Nothing compares to playing a human opponent who actually plays rather than a balanced matrix of scripted responses and unit weights.

The last original strategy game I played was Total Annihilation; everything since has been a Warcraft/Starcraft clone. And its fully customizable multiplayer is still more fun than anything else I've played. Shame the game is dead mind. =/

 
My friend was going to give me a copy. However, it never did turn up...

 

Offline Tiara

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Until I see him wipe the floor with a computer on "Toughest" difficulty mode, there's no chance in hell I would believe it. You're max unit count is 200, meaning you can't just "swarm" the enemy. One on One match on the toughest difficulty on standard rules. Until I see that it's impossible not to use artillery and tactics to take the computer out.

If it's the demo, they didn't perfect the AI all the way. Just from Easiest to Moderate, or so I believe...

First off all, you're welcome to come to Holland and see for yourself how I wipe the floor with the AI :p

And 200 units is more then enough to swarm the AI. :p
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Offline Tiara

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Ow, I read your PM Tin Can. And since your box is full I'll reply here:

I'm away for the weekend so I'll re-install it monday and I'll see what I can do. Though I doubt I have the room to upload the recording of the game... anywhere :p

Already have FRAPS and the like so don't worry (for anis in FS :D)
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The last original strategy game I played was Total Annihilation; everything since has been a Warcraft/Starcraft clone.


Makes me laugh. TA was super polished gameplay wise, kind of like Pod was for racing games. But original? WTF was original in TA? It didn't even have a real plot to begin with :doubt:
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Offline Tiara

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Ok, just played a game to test my skills again cause it's been a while since I played it (seems TCO reinstalled it a few weeks ago) against the AI at toughest and beat it in a few minutes :wtf: I think this was a mistake cuz this was even too fast for me :p Just a lucky strike I guess. :D

Anywayz, i'll see what I can about recording a game next week.
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Offline Tiara

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Eh, just realized thgat recording a 20-minute game with FRAPS is impossible. Unless you can spare a 80 gig HD.

I mean, the 20-30 second recordings for FS were 400-700 MB :p
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Makes me laugh. TA was super polished gameplay wise, kind of like Pod was for racing games. But original? WTF was original in TA? It didn't even have a real plot to begin with :doubt:


The gameplay is all I'm talking about. Funnily enough the plot has no bearing on multiplayer.

 

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My point is that there was nothing original in TA to begin with :doubt:
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