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That's the one limitation of CSS-based design, unfortunately. There's not much to do about it unless you regress to using tables for layout, unfortunately.
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you could put it in iFrames, all three of the "cells".

but, has the FSCZ site demonstrates, that is often a horror to do properly, and frames are hated by some.
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Such a thing as proper iFrames is rarer than Meson particles, trust me. Besides, anything that can be done with iFrames can be done with stylesheets. Like this scrolling element:

Heading 1

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Phasellus nulla felis, ultricies commodo, pulvinar ut, gravida ut, magna. Quisque in nunc. Maecenas feugiat purus vitae elit. Etiam quis diam. Mauris dolor. Class aptent taciti sociosqu ad litora torquent per conubia nostra, per inceptos hymenaeos. Nunc nisl. Nunc laoreet. Nulla facilisi.

Heading 2

Duis enim risus, placerat nec, consectetuer id, pellentesque sit amet, neque. Sed nec tortor. Nam nec leo nec lectus tincidunt cursus. Nulla facilisi. Cras arcu lectus, volutpat ut, ullamcorper eget, elementum vitae, wisi. Nunc diam nulla, luctus et, commodo vitae, mollis cursus, enim. Nunc nulla mauris, aliquam in, vulputate pulvinar, luctus in, wisi. Aenean blandit ullamcorper mauris. Ut rutrum ornare libero. Quisque ac urna. Nulla sed diam vitae ligula mattis blandit.


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I like CSS. :D
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Such a thing as proper iFrames is rarer than Meson particles, trust me. Besides, anything that can be done with iFrames can be done with stylesheets. Like this scrolling element:

Heading 1

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Phasellus nulla felis, ultricies commodo, pulvinar ut, gravida ut, magna. Quisque in nunc. Maecenas feugiat purus vitae elit. Etiam quis diam. Mauris dolor. Class aptent taciti sociosqu ad litora torquent per conubia nostra, per inceptos hymenaeos. Nunc nisl. Nunc laoreet. Nulla facilisi.

Heading 2

Duis enim risus, placerat nec, consectetuer id, pellentesque sit amet, neque. Sed nec tortor. Nam nec leo nec lectus tincidunt cursus. Nulla facilisi. Cras arcu lectus, volutpat ut, ullamcorper eget, elementum vitae, wisi. Nunc diam nulla, luctus et, commodo vitae, mollis cursus, enim. Nunc nulla mauris, aliquam in, vulputate pulvinar, luctus in, wisi. Aenean blandit ullamcorper mauris. Ut rutrum ornare libero. Quisque ac urna. Nulla sed diam vitae ligula mattis blandit.


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I like CSS. :D


ok, now change it from body text to a file link, without using PHP.

and i know proper iFrames are impossible, but as the FSCZ site also shows, it can do some fun stuff.
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ok, now change it from body text to a file link, without using PHP.

and i know proper iFrames are impossible, but as the FSCZ site also shows, it can do some fun stuff.


Why without PHP? That's what it's for. If you use iframes, you alienate anybody browsing on his or her handheld / cellphone / mobile device. You also alienate anyone browsing with a text-only browser.

Alongside those possible
  • disadvantages, there's the whole issue of allowing other sites to link to specific pages on your own site. Frame-based sites always have this problem, since you cannot tell browsers which pages to display in the frameset you're linking to.


So, what advantages do frames have? The best (i.e. most logical and efficient) use of frames I've seen yet is in the My Blogs section of www.bloglines.com - they have a listing on the left that needs to automatically refresh itself every so often, but the news items being read on the right cannot afford to be refreshed, otherwise the user would lose his place.

Frames can also provide a small to medium savings in bandwidth, since the navigation of a site usually is static and unchanging. However, this savings is minimal when compared to the cost of loading a full page on a properly built, CSS styled site.

* "Possible", because you may not have a target audience that would use a mobile device to surf. PC gaming sites generally can safely assume that the surfer will be using a PC to surf, whereas news sites, general informational sites, and search engines are just a few examples of sites that must remain compatible with the widest range of users.

EDIT: Oh yeah, site updated with a new BG Ace sent, and a few other tweaks.
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 
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well, not everyone has PHP capable hosts.

but i am not truely advocating the use of iframes, i am just saying that it is often the easiest, if not only, way out unlesss you want to go server side.


edit:

i really, really dislike the wood texture you put on there. it makes it look very cheap and like it has been made in Word by a 10 year old. (I used to make those kind of sites, in word, when i was 10)
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Originally posted by kasperl
well, not everyone has PHP capable hosts.

but i am not truely advocating the use of iframes, i am just saying that it is often the easiest, if not only, way out unlesss you want to go server side.


edit:

i really, really dislike the wood texture you put on there. it makes it look very cheap and like it has been made in Word by a 10 year old. (I used to make those kind of sites, in word, when i was 10)


True... in lieu of PHP capabilities, choices are limited.

And yeah, the wood doesn't strike my fancy, either, but that's what Acey wanted. I'd just as soon have a partially grainy, subtle drop shadow.
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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Well it's supposed to look like it's on a table. However, I'm thinking about something else for the background such as a map, etc.
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if you want it to look old, you could add some winestains and stuff into the graphic......
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I have something.... gimme a sec...
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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http://www.brainzipper.com/fs2/choranthil/index.html

You'll probably need to force-refresh (CTRL-F5 in IE, SHIFT-click on the refresh button in Mozilla).

I just need to figure out why the bottom is so darned long in f***ing IE - I HATE that browser!! :hopping:

EDIT: Now THAT's weird... the bottom isn't outrageously long in IE when the page is online, just when it's local on my computer. Grrr....
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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That's a much better wood texture than my photoshopped (fractal) wood with the bumpmap thrown on.

Kasperl: I don't want it to look too old, otherwise I would have added in the winestains and crumpled effects. It's intended to look like it was printed more or less recently.

I'll work on some other ideas for a background image, maybe even using that wood texture in it.
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http://www.brainzipper.com/fs2/choranthil/index.html

You'll probably need to force-refresh (CTRL-F5 in IE, SHIFT-click on the refresh button in Mozilla).

I just need to figure out why the bottom is so darned long in f***ing IE - I HATE that browser!! :hopping:

EDIT: Now THAT's weird... the bottom isn't outrageously long in IE when the page is online, just when it's local on my computer. Grrr....


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that is truely awesome
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this is what i get with mo.
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Musta been a bad upload - I got it, too. Refresh.
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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i still only moderately like the wood, but it's better now, i geuss.
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