[jdjtcagle]

Antares, I don't think you understand what is going on with this.
It's not a rumor, and Flim-Flam, or anything that might not of happened.  It's there you just decide what excactly you believe

Bob: What about the Comet??  And yes I afraid that I do believe that this has something to do with God, but I've learned my lesson about going into what I believe

[jdjtcagle]

Originally posted by mikhael
Did you know you can find messages hidden in Pi? and Euler's number (e)? And the square root of 2? In fact, ANY transcendental number. For that matter you can find messages in the Encyclopedia Britannica, the Kama Sutra, or even the 1973-2004 run of TV Guide.

You can, by definition, find any message you want in any sufficiently long sequence of data just by carefully choosing an algorithm. You get bonus points for building an alogrithm that changes based on the data you're examining, so it looks like the 'reader' is being led.

Of course you can find messages in anything, and I mean anything, but I have already explained this in an earlier post

[ChronoReverse]

If God divinely inspired the Bible to be his message to all, why would he bother to encrypt the information?  Especially when all the predictions about Jesus in the Old Testament were all in PLAIN TEXT.

Whether you're a Christian or not, it's not logical.

[jdjtcagle]

Wrong actually, This could only be found with computers, His reason could be anything.  But its defiantly not illogical, maybe we would only find it now for a reason.

[ChronoReverse]

Eh?  That doesn't even follow.

How does "this could only be found with computers" have anything to do with the fact the all predictions in the bible before this was written in plain text (or spoken in plain speech to a large crowd)?

Try a little internal consistency.  In any case, what does predicting events have to do with anything in Christianity if it doesn't tie in with the rest of the message?

All of the _plain text_ prophecies in revelations tie in with the Second Coming.  Some are a bit cryptic because of imagery (how is a first century guy going to describe tanks?) but it's still in plain text.  The message was written for everyone so why would part of it be encrypted in a scheme that restricts access to it?

Moreover, this same technique can be applied to any large text with the same results or even to get any results that you want to fit it with.



Face it, the "Bible Code" is bogus.  Even as a Christian you have to be wary of those who sought to mislead.

[jdjtcagle]

Here's a bunch of them here[

WMD from Iraq Matrix by Roy A. Reinhold (as seen on the new History Channel special premiering on April 11, 2004) NEW 4/11/2004
End of Days Matrix by Roy A. Reinhold (as seen on the History Channel special) NEW 4/10/2004
Nibiru and the End of Days by Bob Schneider NEW 4/08/2004
Saddam Hussein Captured matrix by Dr. Asali Zaki
Hidden Message in Psalm 22 matrix by Richard C. Prendergast
Jerusalem Terror Bombing of August 19, 2003 matrix by Dr. Asali Zaki
Electrical Blackout in the USA matrix by Dr. Asali Zaki
NEW Advanced SARS and the Health of the Lungs by Moshe Aharon Shak
SARS matrix by Asali Zaki
SARS and the Health of the Lungs by Moshe Aharon Shak
Iraq Crisis matrix part 1 by Asali Zaki
Columbia Shuttle Disaster in the Codes part 2 by Moshe Aharon Shak
Final Flight of Space Shuttle Columbia part 2, by Asali Zaki
Final Flight of Space Shuttle Columbia part 1, by Asali Zaki
Columbia Shuttle Disaster in the Codes part 1 by Moshe Aharon Shak
Methodology For Accurate Matrixes paper
New Revised & Expanded Matrix on the Coming Israeli Elections
Matrix on the Coming Israeli Elections
Malvo Identified as the Shooter in Washington DC Murders
Washington D.C. Area in Fear matrix on the snipers
A look at Rock Music.
Dr. Asali takes a look at Breast Carcinoma (cancer) in the codes.
Anthrax article and compact Bible code matrix.
The Big Bang & Creation? A kabbalistic view of the universe.
Attack on the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. A day of infamy and a tragedy for the thousands of civilians killed in the attacks. A new level in significance with many sentences.
Melchizedek and Yeshua (Jesus) Part 2, with very long terms. This is statistically the most significant matrix on this website and of any publicly shown to date
Melchizedek and Yeshua (Jesus): Are They The Same Person? matrix
Revised and Expanded Hillsborough Football Disaster matrix
Pinpoint Matrix--The 70 AD Siege of Jerusalem--A New Way to Code?
Shroud of Turin, a 2-part article examines the issue in the Bible code
Kidney Colic (Kidney Stones) in the Bible code
Football Disaster at Hillsborough in England--A Matrix Showing What Happened
Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy--A Matrix on Mad Cow Disease
Revelation Topic Matrix on the Antichrist & False Prophet (54 letter main term)
2000 Presidential Election matrix Done BEFORE the Election
5-Part Bible Code Search For the Exact Birth Date of Yeshua (Jesus) in Articles
The Resignation of Ehud Barak as PM in Israel
Who is the Wonderful Counselor, the Prince of Peace?
Intifadha -- Middle East in Crisis matrix,
Cloning and its possible benefits, very significant matrix,
Russian Submarine Kursk, with a number of good matrix views
Camp David Middle East Summit
Unity of God
Leukemia matrix
Human Genome Mapping Project matrix
Pope's visit to Israel & Jordan matrix
Alzheimer's disease matrix
Life matrix on Sid Roth, the radio and TV host
Armenicum--a cure for aids?
The Dark Side--Lucifer the fallen one
Justice, Judgment, in 5760? maybe
Cloning Dolly the Sheep matrix
Diabetes matrix
Penicillen matrix
The Beatles matrix with pictures
Jesus the Messiah (Yeshua haMashiach)
The Commandments at Mt. Sinai
The Sphinx
Pyramid's Matrix, Part 1
Taiwan Earthquake
Hurricane Floyd
Lady Diana accident, 43 terms!
September 4, 1999 Israel & PLO Peace Accord
Eclipse of the Sun on August 11, 1999
The Atlanta Killer, Mark Barton
Matrix on the Airplane Crash of JFK Jr
Holocaust 5760? by Victor Pereira

[jdjtcagle]

Look to the BIG BANG!!!:eek:
link
It suggests from what I can see that the big bang created GOD?!?
EDIT:  It's Go'd, something different:D

[ChronoReverse]

It doesn't matter.  Predictions such as these have been "calculated" out of other large works of literature before.



However, the ultimate proof that this is either (a) bogus (b) false messages [as in opposing God] is this:

Well, to be honest, I haven't read The Bible Code, and one reason why is because it suggests that, according to these computer-discovered secret codes, the Second Coming might be in the year 2006 — and my Bible makes it perfectly clear that " NO ONE knows the day or the hour." We Christians have been painfully slow to learn that lesson already, and I don't want to be a participant in any way, shape, or form in repeating that grave error.

In fact the actual reference states that Not even the Son knows the time but only the Father.

The proof is in the pudding.

[Bobboau]

ok watch this

if it doesn't stream well use save target as

[jdjtcagle]

I never said that I believed the Apocolypse prediction, Oh no!!
Not at all, I simply believe that there is stuff in here that might be worth the time of looking at...
This reply is going to be critized without doubt:doubt:

[Knight Templar]

Saw the bible code awhile ago. Unless we all die in 2012, then it's horsepuckey. Any guesses on the Anti-christ?

[Bobboau]

me

still watch it

[jdjtcagle]

World Trade Center
I don't think this is something that can be found in Moby Dick:nod:
And Chrono, It's not bogus at ALL!!

[ChronoReverse]

You know, one of the key things about the prophecies about Jesus in the Old Testament was that NONE OF THEM TURNED OUT TO BE WRONG.


I've heard people say that if they ever find even one that's wrong they'd immediately renounce Christianity even.



And you're willing to accept that such a "Bible Code" can have not only erroneous, but blatantly contradictory predictions and still be true?



Great, but did it predict this?

[jdjtcagle]

Chrono, not one of those people and nothing is contradicting anything.  The people who studied these have come out with "This is the best way to put it" kind of deals with the whole apcalypse thing. I mear guess.

[Bobboau]

from the WTC link provided

A Short Summary: I may add later, my own summary of what is shown in matrix below, but I think that anyone reading the English translations of the terms can draw their own conclusion. One point is necessary to explain. There is another terrorist event predicted in the matrix below for the 10th of Tevet (24/25 December in 2001?). The year term that goes through it is the abbreviated form of year 5762. That abbreviated form can either mean calendar year 2002, or it can mean the jewish year from Rosh Hashanah to the next Rosh Hashanah in the fall of the year. Therefore, the predicted event could either mean December 25 of 2001, or December 15 of 2002. I believe it means December 25 of 2001, because there is also another term I left off the matrix which is an abbreviated year 5761 and is close to the term shown. That points to me that it is more likely December 25 of 2001. However, since one cannot be absolutely sure, it is better to say that it is on December 25 in 2001 or December 15 in 2002. I will work on it to see whether I can dig out more possible details on this possible future event. (don't e-mail to ask about it, if I get something good, I will put up a new revised version of the matrix). Please read all the terms below and draw your own conclusions.

ownt
this has never predicted anything

[Bobboau]

it's a freaking crossword puzzle were you decide wich words to use.

[Knight Templar]

Sounds about right. Either way, it's not going to be any good to predict the future anyway... same with the Nostradamus predictions and what not. You can read in the book and see that a comet will hit Earth in 2006, if we prevent that, then that would make the bible fallable, thus negating the whole religon, no?

[jdjtcagle]

hmm...
Thanks for pointing that out, that defiantly changes of my views
But, I have only had possiblility veiws on this entire thing

[jdjtcagle]

Originally posted by Knight Templar
Sounds about right. Either way, it's not going to be any good to predict the future anyway... same with the Nostradamus predictions and what not. You can read in the book and see that a comet will hit Earth in 2006, if we prevent that, then that would make the bible fallable, thus negating the whole religon, no?

No, we still have free will, and that could be a reason why we have only been allowed to reach it until now:)