[Impurial]

Picked this up, hope it isn't old news:
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/14/1081838784511.html

Just one question, doesn't 'Hydrogen + Oxygen + Fire = BANG' ?

[Nico]

heh, we made an hydrogen car:

funny, it's a fireman car, btw

[Sandwich]

Reminds me of the engine tech I heard about 10-15 years ago or so, where this nobody inventor got a working hydrogen engine, but it ran in reverse to what the article above outlines. You'd pour water into the tank, it'd break it apart, use the hydrogen for energy, and pump pure oxygen out the tailpipe.

Heard the guy got bought out and silenced by some big car company. Jerks.

[Turnsky]

Originally posted by Sandwich

Heard the guy got bought out and silenced by some big car company. Jerks.

doesn't surprise me much.

[Zuljin]

human greed....blech, makes me sick to hear about stuff like that.
Just because they will make more money they silence anything that can cut their profits -_-

But as for the car, it's great news
anything that can improve the cars we have nowadays, and at the same time get rid of the petrol need, thats just simply superb

[J3Vr6]

Well there go the muscle cars and the drag racing

[Lonestar]

It illegal to have electric cars in north America now, only hybrid Gas/Electric is legal.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Impurial
Just one question, doesn't 'Hydrogen + Oxygen + Fire = BANG' ?

Same goes for petrol and air though The important thing is keeping the reaction from ever being dangerous to the people around the car.

Originally posted by J3Vr6
Well there go the muscle cars and the drag racing

Why? Many drag racers already run on methanol cause it's a better fuel than petrol.

[Rictor]

Originally posted by Lonestar
It illegal to have electric cars in north America now, only hybrid Gas/Electric is legal.

Say what? Where are you getting this from? Not that I'm deny it, it just seems pretty insane, even for a country run by oil giants.

[Bobboau]

funny, I see people in them all the time (mostly on TV )

so is there anything new about this or is it just an overview of fuel cells for those who wern't paying atention.

[Drew]

Originally posted by Lonestar
It illegal to have electric cars in north America now, only hybrid Gas/Electric is legal.

ever heard of golf carts?

[J3Vr6]

Originally posted by karajorma
Why? Many drag racers already run on methanol cause it's a better fuel than petrol.

Methanol is not hydrogen or burns even close to it...

[karajorma]

Originally posted by J3Vr6
Methanol is not hydrogen or burns even close to it...

I know (Almost certainly better than you - I'll tell you the story one day of exactly why I know how well methanol burns!!)  but you're acting as if this is the end of everything. That's obvious nonsense. When unleaded petrol became the norm there were people saying exactly the same sort of thing.

Even if it was true you can still get four star petrol almost anywhere. I doubt very much that hydrogen powered cars are going to replace petrol until they can give performance close to that of petrol.

[J3Vr6]

Oh, there's no doubt that hydrogen is gonna put the hungry V8's to sleep... if the government puts a stop to it.  You'll only see them in collections and possible road shows.

You can't make a comparison between the change from lead to unleaded gasoline and changing an entire system to hydrogen.  These cars are going to be nothing like a gasoline powered V8 or an import inline 4.  Ever see an electric car do a burn out?  

But, you're right, hydrogen power will get efficient enough that performance won't be a problem.  Heck, I'm sure they could reach speeds maybe faster than a gasoline, fuel injected engine.  But it won't be the same.  

No more of people working on their cars in their garages...

[JarC]

Originally posted by Drew



ever heard of golf carts?

yeah, but they isn't used for Transport, only for tranSport

[karajorma]

I wouldn't be too certain of that either. Handled correctly a hydrogen engine wouldn't have to automatically be that much nastier to deal with than a petrol one. Sure there are some parts you wouldn't want to mess with (anything involving metal hydrides is a VERY bad idea unless you know exactly what you're doing) but many parts of the engine would remain the same.

As for my point about unleaded. Have a look on the roads. Have electric cars taken over? No. Why? Cause they aren't as good as petrol cars. It will be the same with hydrogen powered cars. They won't take over until they can beat petrol.  

Lets face it. What man is going to buy a wimpy hydrogen powered car when the petrol one is better?

[Rictor]

If I had the money, I would. See, I'm pretty young. And I'de rather live to breathe clean air in my old age than to have A1 SUPAR acceleration.

[Zeronet]

Hydrogen powered buses exist in London or will soon, the picture showed it driving about the place.

[mikhael]

Originally posted by Impurial
Just one question, doesn't 'Hydrogen + Oxygen + Fire = BANG' ?

Only under pressure. Remember: the Hindenburg didn't explode, it BURNED.

[Nico]

Originally posted by karajorma
As for my point about unleaded. Have a look on the roads. Have electric cars taken over? No. Why? Cause they aren't as good as petrol cars. It will be the same with hydrogen powered cars. They won't take over until they can beat petrol.  /B]

No?
Do you see many stations to resupply electric cars? No? Why not?
I let you guess.

That aside, there's quite a lot of GPL cars in europe. That's already a step forward if you ask me.