[PeachE]

well, at least new here (whatup to all the old VBBers still around).

rather large file (~350k). i'll get around to resizing it, but for now just a link: here

comments/criticism welcome. no ****ing spam.

~peace~

[kasperl]

i see you made it over to this area of hell.....

as i said on WS, the blood lying on top of the black lines look odd. to me, it looks like the black is a gap between two segments of floor, but the blood doesn't seem to follow the bump.

[Unknown Target]

Um...done in what now?
Anyway, it's OK, but I don't like it much. The whole piece doesn't seem very well connected, as well as the perspective is simplistic. Lastly, did someone get killed with the sword, or did the owner of the sword get killed by someone else? The piece should tell you that. I see some blood on the sword (I think), but, if the owner of the house had time to put the sword back perfectly, then why is there still blood all over the place, and over the sword itself?

[PeachE]

the perspective of the sword is intentionally simplistic. and no, it is not necessary for the piece to tell you exactly what happened. each viewer should have their own interpretation - that's exactly what makes art interesting.

but to answer your questions of story, clearly the owner was wounded. that type of blood trail means the person carrying the sword was wounded. and clearly, the owner wasn't killed (at least not immediately). he had time to put back the sword. the other questions, why did the wounded owner take the time to put the sword perfectly in place? that's the question of the piece really.

Um...done in what now?

done in photoshop, using the paintbrush and airbrush tools.

[PeachE]

Originally posted by kasperl
as i said on WS, the blood lying on top of the black lines look odd. to me, it looks like the black is a gap between two segments of floor, but the blood doesn't seem to follow the bump.

i know, i tried to darken it or shift it, but it keeps coming up with the same look. you should remember tho that those aren't really gaps in the floor or the rug, it's just the edge of each mat (which are of a different color). i really need to go in and better define the edges of each mat so that it looks more natural.

[Bobboau]

that's nice

[Turnsky]

nice. very nice...

[Setekh]

PeachE! Now that's an old name. Welcome back, dude.

I really, really like this. The atmosphere and colouring are just right. Better get that blood off the blade though, it's gonna rust! Awesome work.

[an0n]

Footprints.

It needs footprints.

It's snowing outside, after all.

[Unknown Target]

Originally posted by PeachE
the perspective of the sword is intentionally simplistic. and no, it is not necessary for the piece to tell you exactly what happened. each viewer should have their own interpretation - that's exactly what makes art interesting.

but to answer your questions of story, clearly the owner was wounded. that type of blood trail means the person carrying the sword was wounded. and clearly, the owner wasn't killed (at least not immediately). he had time to put back the sword. the other questions, why did the wounded owner take the time to put the sword perfectly in place? that's the question of the piece really.


done in photoshop, using the paintbrush and airbrush tools.

Meh, I still think there should be some stronger correlation between the aspects of the piece. It seems like a good idea, but perhaps some remains of either the assailant or the defender would tie it together more. To me, it's just hard to visulize the whole deal happening, and then have no trace of either the owner or the attacker. For instance, if the attacker staggered out of the house, then shouldn't there be footprints?

[PeachE]

no. look, the scene itself is actually tied together just fine. the background information works. the problem you have is that the blood seems out of place or disconnected from the rest of the picture. fine. but it says exactly what i want it to say.

the battle didn't take place here. it took place somewhere else. the wounded owner returned home, knelt down by the table and returned the sword to its place before wandering off somewhere else. that's all i was meaning to convey. the rest is up to the viewer to imagine. it's supposed to be a little cryptic.

[PeachE]

tho an0n is right - wet footprints leading into the house would be a good idea

[an0n]

Just remember to fade them out as they approach the table or you'll have to show which way the sword guy went and screw up the mystery.

[PeachE]

Originally posted by Setekh
PeachE! Now that's an old name. Welcome back, dude.

I really, really like this. The atmosphere and colouring are just right. Better get that blood off the blade though, it's gonna rust! Awesome work.

hehe - wutup Setekh glad you enjoy the pic

[PeachE]

Originally posted by an0n
Just remember to fade them out as they approach the table or you'll have to show which way the sword guy went and screw up the mystery.

tru.

[Unknown Target]

Originally posted by PeachE
no. look, the scene itself is actually tied together just fine. the background information works. the problem you have is that the blood seems out of place or disconnected from the rest of the picture. fine. but it says exactly what i want it to say.

the battle didn't take place here. it took place somewhere else. the wounded owner returned home, knelt down by the table and returned the sword to its place before wandering off somewhere else. that's all i was meaning to convey. the rest is up to the viewer to imagine. it's supposed to be a little cryptic.

But see, you're saying something about the picture. I did what you suggested, and took my own meaning from it. However, if that meaning makes the picture seem wrong, don't you think you should have an allowance to either viewpoint? It never would have occurred to me that the warrior returned from battle, because the doors are open, and there are no footprints in the snow. It looks to me like someone slid open the door, the owner fought him off (why he would put the sword back is still a mystery to me), then was off doing something with the body, like getting help or something, to the side of the house, out of view.

[an0n]

I thought it was pretty damn obvious what had happened.

Guy kills someone who was pissing him off. Guy staggers to put sword back. Guy goes to patch up the gaping holes in his body.

The lack of blood makes it fairly obvious they didn't butcher each other in that room, and the semi-trail coming from the door suggests it happened outside.

[PeachE]

Originally posted by Unknown Target
But see, you're saying something about the picture. I did what you suggested, and took my own meaning from it. However, if that meaning makes the picture seem wrong, don't you think you should have an allowance to either viewpoint? ...

how the hell is it the artists responsibility to keep you from coming to conclusions that contradict with the information presented? that the information contradicts should have kept you from coming to that conclusion. if the meaning you've come to makes the picture seem wrong, then the meaning you've come to is wrong.

[Unknown Target]

If the picture is unclear, then it's the artist's fault.
Anyway, on the picture itself; it's an OK picture, but the angle is still too simplistic. Maybe an an angle on the whole thing would make it much more...dynamic, I guess would be the right word.

[Thorn]

Originally posted by Unknown Target
If the picture is unclear, then it's the artist's fault.
Anyway, on the picture itself; it's an OK picture, but the angle is still too simplistic. Maybe an an angle on the whole thing would make it much more...dynamic, I guess would be the right word.

You dont seem to be getting it. If the picture wer clear, it would completely defeat the purpose of the picture...