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Offline aldo_14

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Jong-Il passed through the area 9-hoursd previously, natch.  It's been speculated on the telly that his presence contributed by adding pressure onto the rail officials.

Horrible, horrible thiing to happen, though.

 

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A terrible tragedy :(

 

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Originally posted by mikhael
[sarcasm]
Oh, who cares, its only North Koreans. Damn dirty communists! Just cuts down on the bodies when we invade them later.
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Oi-vey. Poor bastards. Shame Kim Jong-il was already on his way home though. Some (tiny) good could have come out of it if he just happened to be on of the 3000.


yeah well, I hope your countrys leader dies in an accident too.
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See, Kode, if I were to say that, the Secret Service would come to have a little conversation with me. So I won't agree or disagree with you. I'll just put a little smiley here. It doesn't mean a thing, honest.

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This nod means absolutely nothing as well, I swear by all of humanity's deity figures!

:nod:

Anyways, it is sad what happened.
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Whare's that trout smiley when you need it? :doubt:


Damn shame, this is.
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Does this have to become political?

My prayers go out to the families of the dead and wounded. :(
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I don't pray, and all I can do, Sandwich, is wish some good had come of it. Is that politics? Maybe, maybe not. The people are still dead at the end of the day.
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I don't pray, and all I can do, Sandwich, is wish some good had come of it. Is that politics? Maybe, maybe not. The people are still dead at the end of the day.


You know what they say to people who don't feel like praying, right?

Spoiler:
Talk to God about it.


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There is not God, Sandwich, at least not like the one you believe in. If you'd like to turn it into a religious debate, I'm game. I'll match my agnosticism against your fanaticism any day.
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A life is a life is a life, can't we just agree on that. When people die needlessly, its a tragedy.

 

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A life is a life is a life. Some, however, are worth less than others.
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It's sad what happened, it really is.  One thing though mikhael, how the hell did the universe get created if there was no god?  A Big Bang?  Biggest bunch of crap I've ever heard.
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There is not God, Sandwich, at least not like the one you believe in. If you'd like to turn it into a religious debate, I'm game. I'll match my agnosticism against your fanaticism any day.


You can't prove there is no God. Of course, neither can I prove that there is a God. So no, let's not. :p
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And that would have pretty much been the basis of my argument, Sandwich. ;)
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A life is a life is a life. Some, however, are worth less than others.


But not, ofcourse, yours.

I agree though, some lives are worth more than others. Thats why this is a greater tragedy than 9/11, Americans are simply worth less.

 

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all people are born with the same worth, what they do with there lives can have an effect on that worth.
it's somewhat hard to feel for these poor people becase we can barely tell what's going on, most of them were probly normal decent people liveing there lives when an accedent killed them, but the details are so scetchy it's hard to get an image of an already unimaginable tragedy. it's simply hard to comprehend this.

if you want to place this in comparason with 9/11 there are two critical things to remember, 1) there seems to be fewer people killed here, 2) this, seems to be an accedent, but this is easily on par with 9/11.

the people of North Korea already have hard enough lives, this is something that they simply don't need, nor deserve.

however as Mik was saying if it had happened 9 hours earlier at least some good could have come out of it.
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But not, ofcourse, yours.

My life is worth nothing, something, or everything depending on who you ask.

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I agree though, some lives are worth more than others. Thats why this is a greater tragedy than 9/11, Americans are simply worth less.

Nice of you to make a specious attack against on Americans.

I have to wonder, though, in what way is September 11th related to this, why do you bring it up and in what way is it a greater tragedy?

You may, I think, want to consider what I'm SAYING, and not what you think I'm saying, Rictor. If you're confused, just ask and I'll clarify my statements for you, so you don't make a fool of yourself debating stances I've never made.
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3000 killed in 9/11
3000~ killed/injured here
that's were he probly got the idea
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I know, Bob. I'm trying figure out where he comes up with chutzpah to relate the two things. Its rather like comparing a man who trips whilst hiking and falls of a cliff and a man who got shot in the forehead for walking down the wrong road in the middle of the night (if you want to do a nice reduction on the proportion).
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