[JarC]

I'm impressed Kazan, that is the clearest, most objective argument I've seen you make ever, I think... I couldn't agree more

[vyper]

How would you feel?

I'm guessing they'd go bomb Iran. Wif bigger bombs than iraq. And kill lots of innocent civvys. Probably about 2x10000.  Oh and our Prime Minister here would bend over and be butt raped by **** into helping out.

Maybe this is too easy to forsee. They're going to bomb Iran anyway.

[an0n]

Originally posted by Flipside
An0n, strangely enough, to a point, I agree, I couldn't sell guns to people, because if even one of those guns is used to kill someone, I would consider myself in part responsible. However, A large percentage of admin staff really don't get to hear about what the company is 'doing' they are too wrapped up in their own little world of 'The Office' to be concerned about bigger wheels. Once again, I can see how this could be interpreted as not-caring by those who are angry enough. However, they  were guilty only of the 'crime' of growing up in a 'What difference can I make on my own?' society.

They hear. They hear just fine. But all they care about is their own little cubicle.

If we're only ever hoping to survive, that's fine. But if we're trying to build a civilization, people who think that way should be taken out and shot.

It may take a trillion drops to make an ocean, but it only took one bullet to start WW1.

[Flipside]

LOL Yes Rictor I pay taxes, I admit to that, but they are deducted from my pay cheque before I ever see it. If I could, I would choose for none of my taxes to go to defence, and would prefer for it to go to Education and Healthcare, I think if people in Britain were given a choice, most of them would do this. That is why we are not given a choice Like everyone else in the world, we are just getting from one end of the week to the other without running up too much debt Many Middle Eastern countries have funded Terrorism to a certain degree in the past, even if it's been hijackings etc, (and I try to bear in mind that not all acts of terrorism have ended in death). I couldn't rightly say that I hold the people of that country responsible for that either. People in just about every country in the world have little or no say whatsoever in their governments spending.

And I noticed that thing with skyscapers a while ago, and, my thinking is that, to a Social sect for whom money has semi-religious qualities, destroying the Twin Towers is not dissimilar from the desecration of a Shrine.

I think I read too much Asimov, I keep trying to find common denominators

[an0n]

Yeah, I had that problem while I was taking AS-Level Math.

[Turambar]

hey! towelhead is deragatory.  We tend to prefer Camel Jockey or Sand Nigger.

and for sandwich's friend, well, anyone who insists on living in "Israel" deserves what they get.

Edit: no, there is no such thing as too much asimov, and yes, i am trying to instigate

[an0n]

Nah, the proper way to instigate is to take something that is universally taken as a fact and call it a load of ****.

When I do it it's usually because I do believe it's a load of crap but it works just as well if you're faking.

[Corsair]

Originally posted by Turambar
hey! towelhead is deragatory.  We tend to prefer Camel Jockey or Sand Nigger.

and for sandwich's friend, well, anyone who insists on living in "Israel" deserves what they get.

Edit: no, there is no such thing as too much asimov, and yes, i am trying to instigate

Oy vey. Brilliant statement, Turambar. Instigate away. It was a stupid comment.

[Rictor]

You'de be better off anon if you were to pick something so universally accepted that there is little to no proof of any kind that it actually happened/ didn't happen. Something like "The Crusades never happened, its just propaganda" or "Its plainly obvious that China was the one who started the 30 years war."

[Reez]

or how about this "Just In: President Kennedy shot down by young Osama bin Laden"

I should write for the weekly news

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Turambar
hey! towelhead is deragatory.  We tend to prefer Camel Jockey or Sand Nigger.

and for sandwich's friend, well, anyone who insists on living in "Israel" deserves what they get.

Edit: no, there is no such thing as too much asimov, and yes, i am trying to instigate

What are you trying to instigate, exactly?

[vyper]

An emotional and irrational debate?

[Moonsword]

Wasn't that what we already had going?

[beatspete]

Maybe they were celebrating by firing their guns into the air... at the patrol helicopters.

[Woolie Wool]

If you value your life, you should NEVER fire ANY weapon anywhere NEAR an armed helicopter. Choppers are so frail that you can disable one by tossing a stone into the spinning rotor blades, so their pilots shoot first and ask questions later.

[ionia23]

and therein lies the problem.  You can win a war militarily, you can win a war politically, but you cannot do both at the same time.

Well, that is unless you manage to vaporize all of your opponents and anyone else who might care in the near or distant future...but I've yet to see that work.  Someone always remembers.

You know, the more I think about this whole Iraq thing, the more I remember that scene in Disney's "Fantasia",'The Sorcerer's Apprentice'.  The part where Mickey tries to kill the broom and it splits into two, four, eight, etc.

I keep wondering, where's the damned wizard already????

Like i said elsewhere, 'Freedom' is not having to care who's running the country and where the borders are.

[Gank]

http://www.sacbee.com/content/opinion/story/9316830p-10241546c.html
especially for you Kazan.
http://www.chronogram.com/chronogram/roomforaview/index_2.html

[Styxx]

Originally posted by Gank
http://www.sacbee.com/content/opinion/story/9316830p-10241546c.html
especially for you Kazan.
http://www.chronogram.com/chronogram/roomforaview/index_2.html

If someone fires warning shots ordering you to stop, in the middle of a warzone, and you decide not to stop, you really should expect being shot at for real, you know.

[Woolie Wool]

Sometimes I wonder if these people intentionally get themselves killed to make political hay for opponents of the war. What kind of idiot would stroll right past a soldier ordering him to stop?

[Rictor]

Except that countless times, the victims and nearby witnesses say that the warning shots were not heard, and that the checkpoint was not clearly visible.