[an0n]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3730709.stm

If I was posting this as a commentary on Israel, I'd've posted it in the Rafah thread. But I'm posting it in here because I'm so absolutely stunned that the UN has actually made a decision and managed to follow through on it.

I'm totally shocked.

[Flipside]

The US abstained and issued their own private slap on the wrist. An excellent political step, if I may say so, and I'm not being sarcastic

[vyper]

Both sides are arseholes, and both sides are being left to do as they please by the UN.

Nice.

[Rictor]

if
UN statement=condemnation
then
if
UN statement=UN resolution
then
IsraeliViolatedResolutions=IsraeliViolatedResolutions+1
else
else
IsraelActsWithImpunity=IsraelActsWithImpunity+1

edit: damn, for some reason its gets broken up, and it also wont ackowledge my spaces at the start of certain lines....

[Flipside]

I'll agree it's a symbolistic show, but it's worth noting that America chose to abstain rather than veto the motion, that in itself speaks volumes more than the actual condemnation

[an0n]

Israel are already violating UN resolutions IIRC. Something about not pissing the Palestinians off by invading their ****.

[an0n]

Here we go:

A 2002 U.N. resolution condemning Israel's treatment of the Palestianians laid out a number of violations, including "the siege of Yasser Arafat’s Headquarters in Ramallah, by the Occupying Power in violation of the Geneva Conventions. Those include annexation and settlement, the reoccupation of Palestinian cities and blocking of roads between them; expulsions and targeted assassination of scores of Palestinians; attacks on ambulances and medical personnel; house demolitions; destruction of water storage facilities; uprooting of thousands of fruit and olive trees; 24-hour curfews; almost permanent closures of towns, villages and cities; and excessive use of force, including weapons of war such as F-16 bombers and helicopter gunships used against apartment houses, refugee camps and other civilian targets, causing the deaths of numerous Palestinians."

From the Rotten.com Library.

Violating the Geneva Conventions.

[Rictor]

In violation of 67 UN resolutions regarding war crimes since 1967, IIRC.

edit: different sources say different things, but this is the lowest number I could find, the others were 138 and one in between the two (though I vaguely remember a number in the six hundreds from somewhere...)

[Turambar]

yeah, but what else is new.  If I took over the world, national border issues wouldn't exist.  Problem Solved.

[an0n]

If I took over the world the only borders would be the natural ones formed from the rims of the 8 collosal craters that used to be the surface of the Earth.

[Turambar]

thats why my regime would be better.  I'm an idealist liberal who doesn't want to rule the world with an iron fist or destroy the world, but simply to make it a better place without all the stupid and unnesccesary problems (war, religious dispute, poverty) that plague it today

[an0n]

I follow a more Taoist ideology.

Good and evil will always balance so I intend to pull all the evil into me and use it to ensure the world is a good place.

Basically turn myself into some kind of vengeful God who smites liars and stupid people.

The only good thing religion ever did was give people something to fear that was greater and more dangerous than any mere mortal. But that's been taken from them by civilization. I intend to give them that back.

[Carl]

Originally posted by an0n
I follow a more Taoist ideology.

Good and evil will always balance so I intend to pull all the evil into me and use it to ensure the world is a good place.

well then you can't let any of it out, aka, no smiting.

[Corsair]

It all begs the question, is Israel actually fighting a war? I mean, there was never exactly any declaration of war, so to speak, was there?

I'm not up on my history. Maybe there was (sort of).



Personally, I think it is a war...but...yeah. I'm not making sense again, am I?

[Liberator]

I think the hundreds of dead every month from homicide bombers equals a declaration of war, Rictor.

[Ace]

Originally posted by Liberator
I think the hundreds of dead every month from homicide bombers equals a declaration of war, Rictor.

*cough* suicide bombers

Unless you're one of the members of the unwashed FOX hordes...

Suicide bomber is the term that's been used. So why the **** do a bunch of idiots decide on changing the word because it doesn't evoke enough fear for the audience? Oh wait, that was the reason...

[Rictor]

Originally posted by Liberator
I think the hundreds of dead every month from homicide bombers equals a declaration of war, Rictor.

I think you're mistaking me for someone else. I never said its not a war. In fact, I believe it IS a war. The hundreds of dead each month from missle strikes, gunfire, tank rounds, a lack of health services and food agree with me. The problem is that neither side is playing by the rules of war, which means no harming civilians. It should be said, however, that Israel has the power to *really* break these rules with full force, while the Palestinian militants can only get in a few civies here and there.

And I see nothing wrong with calling them homocide bombers. My perception of reality is grounded enough that merely changing a name to a more menacing sounding one is not going to affect my opinions. However, this is probably not true for the majority of people.

[ionia23]

I'm sure there's plenty of Palestinians and Israelis alike would who don't really care if the other is exterminated. They want to eat, sleep, work, ****, ****, and die like the rest of us.  The true solution would be for both sides to throw the fanatics out of their respective nations, including those in political power.

Freedom is not having to care where the borders are or who's running the country.

[Rictor]

imposter! where is the real ionia?

*rips of fake nose*

AHA! Just as I suspected!

[Petrarch of the VBB]

It's the groundskeeper!