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Just saw it. Not amazingly outstanding, but quite enjoyable. Brad Pitt has some sweet "step aside, Neo" moves if you can catch them. ;)

Thoughts? Is it even out yet anyplace else?
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I don't like the portrayal. They've Hollywoodized a story that Homer already stretched to the limits of credibility. The Greeks don't have beards, which is a big error. Men ALWAYS wore beards in ancient Greece as it was considered feminine and undignified not to.
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It's been out here for awhile. I havent' seen it yet though. (:doubt: ) but I hear it's not all that accurate to the tale at all. (I.E. no godly influence in the plot at all.)
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I never read the story outside of history or literature books, so aside from the very basic "Trojan horse" tactic, I knew absolutely nothing about anything.
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I read the stories of Trow in a lot of books, but I never ever make it to the movies to see big hits or the latest releases due to the fact that I have no one to take me. Being born in 89 means i cant get my license till im 18... :mad:

 

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What where do you live?? I was born in 89
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:lol: That sucks for you.
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Offline jdjtcagle

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That's not the law in Oklahoma, or is it?? Because I have friends taht drive and are 16

Oh, and just so I don't kil the thread, haven't sen it yet and I don't think it's based on the Odyssey, it's based on the actual historical event... Even though they still got stuff wrong:D
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it would be based on the Iliad actually, not the Odyssey :nod:
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Offline Reez

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another thing they decided to cut out was that the Greeks were generally bisexual. They liked their girls, but they liked their boys too.

 

Offline Turambar

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Originally posted by Woolie Wool
in ancient Greece as it was considered feminine and undignified not to.

IIRC, Paris was feminine and undignified, lol
how funny, shot by legolas.

I say they should have gotten people who looked more greek to be in the movie, like say Antonio Bandares as Achilles.

As for te beards, well, i guess they didn't want everyone looking like arabs or something :lol:
and i love the whole thing with Boromir as Odysseus.  They should make The Odyssey with Sean Bean and cool special effects (all the other versions suck IMHO) and a better soundtrack (i mean, some vocal is enough, but they didn't know when to stop!

Edit: I may be half arab, but the other half of me is Greek!
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That's not the law in Oklahoma, or is it?? Because I have friends taht drive and are 16

Oh, and just so I don't kil the thread, haven't sen it yet and I don't think it's based on the Odyssey, it's based on the actual historical event... Even though they still got stuff wrong:D



Yes, not tryng to kill the thread or anything :nervous: ... I think its up for a vote on july 1st (it is in Massachusetts at least) that you have to be 18 to get your liscence, or have your permit at the time of the cuttoff, which means i beat the cutoff in any case by 8 months... don't know if its national though...
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Offline Reez

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Driving laws aren't under federal jurisdiction. So no, it would only be in your state

  

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Actually, you can drive in any state in the US for up to 30days if you have a valid driver's license in your home state.
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anyone who says something like "it sucked.  the greek didn't have beards" is a complete idiot, sorry to say.  the movie was amazing, definately one of the best 3 i've seen all year, and probably will be in the top 3 the whole year.  flawless movie.  i loved it.

 

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Well, aside from some well-done battle sequences, it sucked. The music was horrible, ripped off at least 5 movies, among them THE MAIN THEME of Lawrence of Arabia and Stargate, the characters were with two exceptions (Achilleus and Hector) cardboard cutouts, with Achiellus being so horribly miscast that it was painful. Peter O'Toole and Eric Bana made their characters the most interesting of the film. But no Lord of the Rings it ain't. Heck, it ain't even gladiator.

And, it shortened a 10 year war into a 10 day war. Jeez
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The music was horrible, ripped off at least 5 movies, among them THE MAIN THEME of Lawrence of Arabia and Stargate


James Horner is infamous for that (though it's usually himself he rips off of).
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Offline Reez

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I didn't really like it. It was too much Achilles glorification. And he had no girlfriend. Most of the Greeks at that time were bi. He wasn't bi. He was a flaming homosexual with the guy they made his "cousin". And the Iliad wasn't Achilles's story. It was Oedipus's, just as much as the Odyssey was.

 

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Well, I'll make up my mind when I see it next Saturday. :)
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