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Offline Gloriano

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Reply #20 on: May 21, 2004, 06:22:27 am
I liked Troy very much it's was really good movie
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Reply #21 on: May 21, 2004, 07:20:14 am
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Originally posted by Turambar

and i love the whole thing with Boromir as Odysseus.


I must say, it was certainly a first for him from what I've seen - he actually lived thru the end of the movie (consider Patriot Games, Equilibrium, and LOTR)! :lol:
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Reply #22 on: May 21, 2004, 08:02:21 am
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I didn't really like it. It was too much Achilles glorification. And he had no girlfriend. Most of the Greeks at that time were bi. He wasn't bi. He was a flaming homosexual with the guy they made his "cousin". And the Iliad wasn't Achilles's story. It was Oedipus's, just as much as the Odyssey was.


Odysseus, you mean.
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Reply #23 on: May 21, 2004, 01:36:54 pm
yeah. sorry. Oedipus was the guy who had kids with his mom. I think he lives in Alabama now.
 

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Reply #24 on: May 21, 2004, 02:48:17 pm
Read the original - I did it with Odysseus. I guess I'm gona read the Ilyas too.
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Reply #25 on: May 21, 2004, 04:13:08 pm
Seeing it with mi mujer tomorrow, heard something about Paris surviving, in which case I want my money back already...
 

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Reply #26 on: May 22, 2004, 12:24:49 am
well you know... when you go see a film based on fiction....................................
 

Offline Knight Templar

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Reply #27 on: May 22, 2004, 03:30:24 am
Canoness aside, it was an okay movie. Good for the action, more or less. The one on one sword fights were pretty cool, but otherwise, it seems like the major fighting was pretty standard.

Like I said though, some parts of the story were just too :wtf:
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Reply #28 on: May 22, 2004, 11:21:39 am
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Originally posted by Reez
yeah. sorry. Oedipus was the guy who had kids with his mom. I think he lives in Alabama now.


Nope.  I heard he moved to Mississippi.  The last time I heard he shot a repo man who was sent to repossess his guns, as he put them as collateral for his house.

"Don't let 'em take daddy's guns."

But anyway, Troy sucked.  I rather watch the rerun of the 1988 Rose Bowl between the USC Trojans and the Michigan State Spartans (or vice-versa) on ESPN.  Plus, Paris (played to Orlando Bloom) should have died, as he did in the Illiad, in the hands of Achilles.  Come on, he was the instigator of the whole affair.  I guess he was too - "sexy" to die.

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Reply #29 on: May 22, 2004, 02:14:56 pm
Sexy..? He was a big pussy.
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Reply #30 on: May 22, 2004, 02:46:04 pm
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Sexy..? He was a big pussy.


Note the quotes.  I went to see it with my friend and his girlfriend, who has a "thing" for Orlando Bloom.  It was one of the things I said to her after the movie ended.  Hehe.
 

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Reply #31 on: May 23, 2004, 12:48:36 am
None of the girls I saw it with liked the movie much at all.
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Reply #32 on: May 23, 2004, 01:39:41 am
it was pretty badass when orlando bloom's at his brother's feet, and his brother stands up for him and kills that big guy.

:d
 

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Reply #33 on: May 23, 2004, 05:23:45 am
Some of the dialogue was so unintentionally funny the whole audience chuckled (which is quite a rarity in British cinemas). When Paris picked up the bow you could almost see Orlando Bloom's face going 'whoa, where have I done *this* before' - still, overall it was worth seeing.

Doesn't come anywhere near Gladiator though; that's still the best 'epic' film there's been in the last decade
 

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Reply #34 on: May 23, 2004, 05:39:59 am
Sadistic - Amen!

i reckon the movie would have been so much better if Russel Crowe had played instead of Brad pitt....he rocked so hard in gladiator
 

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Reply #35 on: May 23, 2004, 06:17:05 am
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i reckon the movie would have been so much better if Russel Crowe had played instead of Brad pitt....he rocked so hard in gladiator


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Reply #36 on: May 23, 2004, 08:37:15 am
The Greeks at the time were more pale thanks to an invasion by pale chaps (or somesuch)
  

Offline Mr. Vega

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Reply #37 on: May 23, 2004, 04:18:52 pm
And Agamemnon looked like Mel Brooks:p
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Reply #38 on: May 23, 2004, 08:12:19 pm
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it was pretty badass when orlando bloom's at his brother's feet, and his brother stands up for him and kills that big guy.

:d


Funny, I thought that was the worst part of the movie.
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Reply #39 on: May 24, 2004, 12:07:58 am
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Funny, I thought that was the worst part of the movie.


one of the cheesiest, for sure, but don't you think it was tight that his brother, in like 2 seconds, puts that fat guy on the ground?  i thought it was.
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