[Bobboau]

I think if it's running out of memory it starts swapping stuff back and fourth from system memory.

[Lightspeed]

Yeah, and it then would whiten out the textures, not making them 'invisible'.

[Bobboau]

it might be an over write thing, god I hope not

[terren]

I had the same bug as lightspeed using the 'fs2_openT-20040405'
build,  in the second mission of the main campain. all the shiven ships textures went away, no shines no glows nothing but shield mesh, and engine glows,  I still tryed to play the mission out, but descovered that I could fly right through the capship (cant remember the name) and my weapons had no effect on it, realy odd bug.  have not tryed with any of the newer versions, but I've DLed the decal build and I'm trying to duplacate it now.

If I duplacate it, I'll post my system specs and shuch.

[Bobboau]

I'v spent much of the day trying to get this to happen in a debug build, why do these sorts of things never happen in the debug builds?

I'm thinking maybe a ship is getting it's textures freed when it shouldn't, and seeing as this isn't native to my code path, someone try to track down the earliest build were this does show up.

[kasperl]

Originally posted by terren
I had the same bug as lightspeed using the 'fs2_openT-20040405'
build,  in the second mission of the main campain. all the shiven ships textures went away, no shines no glows nothing but shield mesh, and engine glows,  I still tryed to play the mission out, but descovered that I could fly right through the capship (cant remember the name) and my weapons had no effect on it, realy odd bug.  have not tryed with any of the newer versions, but I've DLed the decal build and I'm trying to duplacate it now.

If I duplacate it, I'll post my system specs and shuch.

Post the specs anyway, please....

I've had this happen on 2 occasions:
1) When FS2 (retail, HOTU like) gave me an error about not finding a certain texture, that was just in the maps dir. Nothing unexpected
2) Sometimes a ship just ain't there, and only secondary (lock on!) weapons could harm it. Sometimes collision detections was forked as well, sometimes not. Engine glows would be there, I can't remember for shields.

[terren]

yeah, I got #2, still no luck with reproducing it though.  I'm hoping it was a one time thing.

specs
P4 3Ghz
1 Gig of ram
GeForce FX 5700 128Megs ram
640*480*32 res

using
-spec -glow -pcx32 -jpgtga -d3dmipmap -fps
lightspeeds weapon pack w/o decals

am I missing anything?

[Lightspeed]

No, no, this is the bug Bob and I were talking about earlier.

Bumping from some posts back to Bob's attention:

Wouldn't it be perfect then, to check if the mission is or isnt in subspace and THEN deciding which method to use for the env mapping?

That would speed up things and look exactly the same (as the subspace env is still animated). I think this would be the ideal setting for most people.

So... is this possible? I think that's what would comfort most people.

[Bobboau]

yeah I guess I could do that, I don't think people would see that big of a diference even once animated backgrounds start getting used, though you'r still going to have slow downs in subspace missions.

[kasperl]

Originally posted by terren
yeah, I got #2, still no luck with reproducing it though.  I'm hoping it was a one time thing.

specs
P4 3Ghz
1 Gig of ram
GeForce FX 5700 128Megs ram
640*480*32 res

using
-spec -glow -pcx32 -jpgtga -d3dmipmap -fps
lightspeeds weapon pack w/o decals

am I missing anything?

Why are you running that monster of a machine on 640*480?

Are you using the media VP or any other high-res art?

[Lightspeed]

Originally posted by Bobboau
yeah I guess I could do that, I don't think people would see that big of a diference even once animated backgrounds start getting used, though you'r still going to have slow downs in subspace missions.

Well, if it can't be helped

See, the slow-down is not mortal or anything, it's just annoying. And if it looks the same and runs faster that sounds like a very very good thing to do.

[terren]

I happen to like 640*480  now if the text size scaled up along with everything else I'd push the envlope a bit, but as it is I get headaches from reading the text.
I'm using the new drive flares and weapon effects, also shine and glow maps.  Forgot about those sorry.

[Flaser]

I guess I have diagnosed the true reason: small monitor.

Hard to fix, though not vital for a gamer.