[Rampage]

Hey guys,

I just want to take a poll of HLP's denizens.  Do you consider yourself to be liberal, moderate, or conservative?

I vote conservative myself, and I wait for you bleeding hearts to vote.

I bet that this thread will be closed by the admins pretty soon and me given a ban for some reason like that past of an0n.

Cheers,

Rampage

[Rictor]

Liberal, though thats a pretty narrow descrpition. I don't necesarilly agree with Liberals on eveything, or disagree with Conservatives on eveything, but more or less Left.

[phreak]

apathetic moderate

[Taristin]

Originally posted by Rictor
Liberal, though thats a pretty narrow descrpition. I don't necesarilly agree with Liberals on eveything, or disagree with Conservatives on eveything, but more or less Left.

Kinda the same here. But not really a political person.

[Rictor]

Oh, wait, I've got a good idea. Instead of just waiting for the first opportunity to start the flamewar, how about people actually explain why and they hold such and such a belief. You know, in the interest of understanding and all that.

I'll start.

I agree with the general position held by the Left, becuase it seems to best serve the interests of freedom, peace, self-determination and so forth. It tries to better the situation of people, instead of advancing the causes of greed or idealogy or only personal gain.

When I look down through history, all the people who were  supporters of monarchy, slavery, colonialism, religious intolerance, class inequality, wars of conquest and other such thing, they all seem to have a specific mindset throughout. And this mindset more closely corresponds with the modern "conservative" minset than with the "liberal" one. In a nutshell, the way I see it, all of history's bstards were the "conservatives" of their day. Note that I said "of their day", which means that from several possible mindsets, their was always towards the Right, not that their beliefs are identical to modern day conservatives.

I might post some more later, but right now I'm off to watch Paycheck with Ben Affleck which will, I suspect, be a bad flick. Ah well, nothing better is out. The Statement sucked, it looked so good before I actually saw it.

[Corsair]

Liberal. My school is rather conservative though, they call me a music-loving peace-worshiping hippy there.

[Carl]

HLP is riddled with hippies.

[vyper]

I refuse to participate in this seriously due to the flame potential that will soon become apparent.

In the mean time: Moo.

[an0n]

I have a somewhat unique political ideology.

I believe there should be three tiers of government. The first elected by the people, but with enough power to be able to ignore the will of the people. The second comprised of a single person whose word is law and can only be over-ruled by a 90% consensus of the first level or by a 75% vote from the people.

The third would be completely autonomous. Answering to no-one and with total power to do as they pleased. If anyone was deemed to be rocking the boat, this branch of the government would 'disappear' them and destroy their ideas publicly.

[Unidan]

I choose D: none of the above. Political debates are evil.

[vyper]

You built the US govt. system didn't you? How old are you an0n?

[an0n]

If I believed in reincarnation, I'd say about 5000 years old. But I don't. So: 18.

[Rictor]

nah, in the end, the people will do whats best for them or die off. Either way, it all works out.

the only reason someone would want dictatorial powers would be to further their own ends. Anyone who has the interests of the people at mind would not interefere. Intereference in human affairs has a very bad track record. Freedom is more important than stability, which is getting well into the realm of Brave New World and the like.

but hey, thanks for no one participating in my little idea. I really appreciate it.

[Turambar]

I guess Liberal fits best.  Really, I'm an Idealist, which means that there's a certain way that things should be and if things are like that, then the world wil be better, and right now the closest thing on the list to that is liberal

[Rictor]

anon: don't flatter yourself, there's nothing unique about your idea. Its been the dream of every dictator in human history. Thankfully, most failed. But those who successded ruled over the worst chapters in history. But, of course, we are to believe you would be different. A philosopher-king, wise and restrained, with the ability to safekeep the "bewildered herd" from itself.

[Setekh]

Hooray for socialism over here.

[Nico]

I'm... moderate right wing and sometimes moderate left wing, depending n the subject.  But I'm never moderate-and-that's-it, leads nowhere.

Oh, and I vote for a new forum, where Rictor and An0n would be locked, together, on their own.

[Flaser]

Socialist - In other words, a reformed Communist.

[Singh]

I dont bother with politics.....
As long as I can bribe a politician running a particular segment of the city that concerns me, that party aint getting my vote (if I ever get the chance to that is).

In Singapore though, it doesnt matter. It especially doesnt matter since im stuck with the Government here whether or not I like them (being in the army does that to ya).....*sigh*........

[HotSnoJ]

For the wuv of fishes and all that is still good in the world why are we having yet another political topic?

You know, I know, and they know that these always get into a flame feast centered around some conservative thinker (such as me or Lib).



So lets drop it.