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Offline pyro-manic

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:lol::lol:

What a tool. He's got a point, though - he should have been warned that his work was unacceptable...
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Offline aldo_14

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No he doesn't.  If the doss **** can't do his own work, he shouldn't be there.  Personally, I support the idea of letting him pay for 3 years, then yanking the carpet otu from udner his feet.

oh, and - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/1899731.stm

 

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Bah. He was cheating and now he's crying because they caught him when he thought he was in the clear.
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Offline Rictor

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but University costs alot of money. There is no reason at all why it should go down the drain. Unless his parents are rich, this is going to set him back for a number of years. Sure, make him re-do the essay, or deduct some marks, or make him re-do the year, but 3 years is insane. You're going to tell me you've never used work that wasn't your own?

 

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oh, and - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/1899731.stm
They're engineers. The entire point of engineering is getting a task, designing a framework, then taking parts other people have made and turning them into a finished product.

I'd say their ethics are just fine.
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You're going to tell me you've never used work that wasn't your own?
I have never used work that wasn't my own.

And he knew the risks when he started cheating, yet he continued to do it. So the three years are forfeit.
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Offline JarC

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those lazy, doublecrossing, lyin sob's don't even deserve a 2nd chance...and then having the bloody nerve to turn around and sue the uni? not even out of school and already corrupted to the bone...
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They should make him write a 100,000 word essay on the morality of cheating.....then still drop him.
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Offline JarC

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better yet, they should fine any cheater with the same amount as they've wasted in those 3yrs, occupying a place that otherwise could have been taken by someone with a sense of ethics
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Offline Rictor

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guys, its not murder. its cheating on a school essay/exam. I've done it a few times, and lo and behold, God hasn't smotten (or is that smitten?) me yet.

I'de wager a guess that the majority of students plagarise at some point in their school career. No big deal. But this is going to end up costing him tens of thousands of pounds, which needless to say is a ton of money.

 

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no big deal? and folks wonder why society goes down the drain...sheesh...
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Originally posted by Rictor
but University costs alot of money. There is no reason at all why it should go down the drain. Unless his parents are rich, this is going to set him back for a number of years. Sure, make him re-do the essay, or deduct some marks, or make him re-do the year, but 3 years is insane. You're going to tell me you've never used work that wasn't your own?


Yes - absolutely.  I have never copied work which is not my own.  I have used some theory stuff (with appropriate notation in a bibliography), and have occasioanlly been given coursework that involves fixing a sample program - but i have never taken someone elses thinking and submitted it as my own.

It's simple - you got to university to learn.  If you can't be bothered putting in the work, then you shouldn't be there.  I've worked 14+ hour days to get my degree, I don't have any sympathy for someone who 'steals' there way towards it.    

The only mistake the uni made was not finding the palguarism and chucking him out at the start.  But anyone with half a brain knows that you can't just copy work for any sort of qualificational course - he knew he was risking expulsion, and he got caught.  If he was too thick to realise that he can't just cheat his way along, then he's too thick for the qualification.

Simple as that.  Chuck him out the course, and bar him from re-applying.

 

Offline Rictor

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no no, please explain this to me? why is this the worst thing that has ever happened to mankind, a catastrophe of epic proportions, the end of society as we know it etc etc? Why is this so terribly, inconcievably wrong?

Tell me you've never plagarised. Tell me.

 

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But this is going to end up costing him tens of thousands of pounds, which needless to say is a ton of money.
And so it should.
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Tell me you've never plagarised. Tell me.
I have never plagarised.
"I.....don't.....CARE!!!!!" ---- an0n
"an0n's right. He's crazy, an asshole, not to be trusted, rarely to be taken seriously, and never to be allowed near your mother. But, he's got a knack for being right. In the worst possible way he can find." ---- Yuppygoat
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Offline Rictor

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the way I see it, school is a stupid, petty and ineffective system. This, of course, varies from school to school, course to course and at what level you are (elementary, highschool, university/college).

Lets take highschool as an example, since I am yet to attend college. The point, in most cases is not to learn. Nothing worth learning in any case. The point is to get through the system with as high marks as possible. The reason you are there (in most cases) is so you can get good grades, to get into a good university, to get a good job. So, the final objective is getting a good job. I could care less about Algebra and Physics, I am never going to need it. Why should I spend my time, my effort, my hard work, to learn something which will be useless to me in the future? Why, because the system says I should?

 

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I murdered someone. I didn't get caught so I murdered 200 more people. Now they say I should go on trial for all the murders but if they'd caught me after the first one I would have been able to get away with less prison time. Plus I spent thousend on axes, knives and guns. I should at least get that money back. I'm going to sue. :rolleyes:

What a ****ing dickhead. He was probably laughing to himself about this every f**king time he went out drinking while the rest of his year had to stay in and actually do some work.

The rules are clear. He deserved every single thing that happened to him.

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but University costs alot of money. There is no reason at all why it should go down the drain. Unless his parents are rich, this is going to set him back for a number of years.


He choose to waste his money. You're supposed to go to university to learn not cheat. If he decided to waste his time and money that's not the universities fault.

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I could care less about Algebra and Physics, I am never going to need it. Why should I spend my time, my effort, my hard work, to learn something which will be useless to me in the future? Why, because the system says I should?


The excuse of the ignorant. I don't need it so why should I learn it :rolleyes: Ever heard of knowledge for knowledges sake? Jesus Christ, if every human had been as lazy and ignorant we'd still be sitting in caves.
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Offline JarC

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Why is this so terribly, inconcievably wrong?
:doubt: the fact you even dare ask proves that it is no use explaining it to you...

it's just a matter of integrity...something you obviously haven't...
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no no, please explain this to me? why is this the worst thing that has ever happened to mankind, a catastrophe of epic proportions, the end of society as we know it etc etc? Why is this so terribly, inconcievably wrong?

Tell me you've never plagarised. Tell me.


I have never plagarised.  EVER.  That's with big capiatla letters and a full stop.  Nor will I ever plagarise.  I do my own work, I earn my own qualifications.  

And at the end of it all, I actually understand what I'm doing, and I get a result that is an accurate representation of the blood, sweat and tears that i have poured into the work

There is no excuse.  If you can;t do the work, then try harder.  If you aren't willing to try harder, then just **** off, because you don;t deserve anything.

I've already spoken about how long, how hard I've worked at uni.  Should I really be put on the same level as someone who spends 15 minutes doing a cut & paste job?

If someone wants to cheat, and copy, and basically steal their way toewards a degree, then fine - they take the risk.  But don;t expect anything other than glee when they get caught out and kicked out.