[Hippo]

US vs China? Play JetFighter IV...

[vyper]

In a conventional conflict the US would be out numbered in the air and on land. Naval power counts for a bit when fighting a country with a land mass like China's, but not enough since the Chinese had technology equality with the US.  More over, it would take months nigh a year to assemble enough manpower to properly invade.

It would be a slaughter with no real winner in my opinion.

However if we are to consider the nuclear option, then the US would "win" in terms of Chinese losses vs. US losses.

[redsniper]

everyone who's seen the End of the World flash movie knows what will happen if we nuke China...

[phreak]

it looks like china has only 20 ICBMs.  We win

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/china/icbm/index.html

[IceFire]

At the heart of capitalism lies China....because everything is "Made in China".  I doubt the two could go to war...it'd be crippling to both.

[jdjtcagle]

Very true
Looks at American Flag...  *Made in China* J/K

[Flipside]

ROFL!

Actually, you never know......

[Stealth]

Originally posted by IceFire
At the heart of capitalism lies China....because everything is "Made in China".  I doubt the two could go to war...it'd be crippling to both.

very true!

[Nico]

Originally posted by PhReAk
it looks like china has only 20 ICBMs.  We win

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/china/icbm/index.html

20 is plenty enough to level any major sytrategical spot in the US if you ask me.
And there won't be a war with China before at least 2100, so why wondering?

An0n: fanaticized populations? There's no such people in China, they're not all like "viva the red army" or "we'll die for Buddha"

[Tiara]

Originally posted by Nico


20 is plenty enough to level any major sytrategical spot in the US if you ask me.
And there won't be a war with China before at least 2100, so why wondering?

An0n: fanaticized populations? There's no such people in China, they're not all like "viva the red army" or "we'll die for Buddha"

And you never know what those Chinbese are keeping behind they're backs. Somehow I doubt they put they're entire arsenal on display for everyone to see. I wouldn't be surprised if they rolled out a copy of the Tsar Bomba

For those who don't know, although I think everyone here does, the Tsar Bomba is the largest most powerfull nuke ever built by Humans up untill this day. It had a maximum theoretical yield of 100MT [equals 6500 Hiroshima bombs]. Though it's design was reduced to a 50MT bomb. A fun fact about this bomb: The fabrication of the massive parachute disrupted the Soviet nylon hosiery industry.

Also, Buddhists don't fight. They sit and are ignored or killed.

[KS_Al]

Originally posted by Tiara

And you never know what those Chinbese are keeping behind they're backs. Somehow I doubt they put they're entire arsenal on display for everyone to see. I wouldn't be surprised if they rolled out a copy of the Tsar Bomba

For those who don't know, although I think everyone here does, the Tsar Bomba is the largest most powerfull nuke ever built by Humans up untill this day. It had a maximum theoretical yield of 100MT [equals 6500 Hiroshima bombs]. Though it's design was reduced to a 50MT bomb. A fun fact about this bomb: The fabrication of the massive parachute disrupted the Soviet nylon hosiery industry.

Also, Buddhists don't fight. They sit and are ignored or killed.

Vietnamese were buddhists they fight to hell and also China invaded Tibet so that's another thing and the Japanese are also.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Tiara
Also, Buddhists don't fight. They sit and are ignored or killed.

Hmm, nope. Buddhists don't prone non-violence, it's quite the opposite acually. But they don't prone violence either, go wonder.
An interestic buddhist quote:
"if you meet Buddha, kill him"
Would have been funny if the dude who wrote the bible put something like that in it

[Kosh]

it looks like china has only 20 ICBMs.

That would still be more than enough to level the US. They could probably buy more from Russia too.

[Mr. Vega]

China has a couple of their own.

[Bobboau]

as do we and we are working on a anti-missle system,

who would win I think comes down to what winning means, and how the conflict started, if China were to atempt a preemtive strike, they'd lose, if we came up with some bull**** reason to invade we'de lose, who ever is wonded first will have moral authority to be utterly merciless to the other, and will take advantage of this. so if China atempts invaideing Taiwan for example, they destroy our bases in the reagon and people all around the world watch as the Chinees army rapes Taiwan, the US wouldn't have it's hands tied as it has in recent wars, there would be no fighting in the streets as cities would be leveled, if it came down to an us killing as many of them, while they try to kill as many of us as posable situation we'de probly win (especaly given the number of nations to whom wich we have mutual defence treaties with, and my scenario is a China strikes first one), but it would be very very very very bloody. as mentioned WW3, probly over 1.5 billion dead. there would defenatly be a draft, we'd probly loose a few million, China would probly be able to penetrate our defences, and if nukes get involve we'd probly lose one or two hundred million people.

[Assassin]

Originally posted by Nico


Hmm, nope. Buddhists don't prone non-violence, it's quite the opposite acually. But they don't prone violence either, go wonder.
An interestic buddhist quote:
"if you meet Buddha, kill him"
Would have been funny if the dude who wrote the bible put something like that in it

"if you meet Buddha, kill him" - thats not LITERAL. It means to not 'worship' him as a God, but to use your own experience 'on the path'

Didn't some vietnamese buddhist monks immolate themselves as part of a protest?

Many of the vietnamese buddhists went to great lenghs to end the war peacefully. This caused them to be seen as enemies both by the Americans and by the Vietnamese government. A lot of them got killed for that. Non-violence is a big part of the religion... of course, whether the average layman could follow that guidance when they see their country being torn to shreds is an individual matter.

[Janos]

Originally posted by Gank

Not to mention their latest tank is more advanced than the abrams.

what

What is China's latest tank - their own version of T-90? If so, then how is it superior to Abrams (which is second to Strv 122 and Leo 2A6-EX, maybe)? I feel pretty goddamn confused. And don't bring along "hey, their tank is not as big and the main gun is bigger!!!1" -debate. It has nothing to do with reality.

[Rictor]

the Chinese government is about as representative of Buddhism as I am of Martians.

suuuure, they invaded Tibet, destroyed countless temples and religious artifacts, drove out the Dalai Lama and killed innocent, peaceful monks, but they're still good Buddhists, you have to believe them...yeah right.

[TrashMan]

To make a long stroy short:

USA has allmost no chance of invading China and winning. (too many chinesse)

China has no chance of invading USA and winning. (what are they gonna invade with? Rafts? Too many soldiers, too little boats. And there's still the problem of the US navy)

[Gank]

Originally posted by Janos


what

What is China's latest tank - their own version of T-90? If so, then how is it superior to Abrams (which is second to Strv 122 and Leo 2A6-EX, maybe)? I feel pretty goddamn confused. And don't bring along "hey, their tank is not as big and the main gun is bigger!!!1" -debate. It has nothing to do with reality.

Type 98, details on it are sketchy but janes says its better and thats good enough for me.