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Offline Bobboau

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what the hell, Iraqi Sovereignty thing moved to today!
I just heard on the TeeVee that, out of the blue, the handover (however you may see it) has been bumped to... now... :wtf:
this is so new that none of the news sites have any info on it yet, only msnbc and foxnews has even a little banner about it.
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US hands over sovereignty in Iraq 2 days early (Iraq is now a sovereign nation, etc.)
Eh?
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US hands over sovereignty in Iraq 2 days early (Iraq is now a sovereign nation, etc.)
Headline(no link) from FOX News:
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Full Sovereignty Handed Over to Iraqis Two Days Before Deadline


I guess this makes it official, if they want us gone, we're gone.
So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

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here we are

well it doesn't realy say that much, but from what I hear it has been moved to today.
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Offline Bobboau

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whowah!?! hey! msnbc is saying it _HAS_ happened!
:_W_T_F_:
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Strange... not really a bad thing though, is it?
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not bad but odd as hell

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,123961,00.html
not very usefull but more acurate
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US hands over sovereignty in Iraq 2 days early (Iraq is now a sovereign nation, etc.)
Makes sense. The idea probably was so that if the insurgents had anything planned this would screw up their plans.
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US hands over sovereignty in Iraq 2 days early (Iraq is now a sovereign nation, etc.)
I have a very bad feeling about this.

 

Offline Bobboau

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US hands over sovereignty in Iraq 2 days early (Iraq is now a sovereign nation, etc.)
yeah, I bet there are quite a few nasty people shouting assorted expitatives in arabic right now.

if you combine this with the FCC's ability to track down bad words and a missle system I think we have a solution for the insurgant problem.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3845517.stm

To pre-empt the rebels and any terror strikes :p
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Offline Tiara

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US hands over sovereignty in Iraq 2 days early (Iraq is now a sovereign nation, etc.)
hmmm...

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The BBC's world affairs editor John Simpson in Baghdad says bringing the handover forward was a clever tactical move that wrong-footed the Iraqi resistance.

Bremer (right) said he was confident in the future of Iraq
However, he says it actually underlines the US-led coalition's big failure - its inability to stop the violence.


Discuss... :p
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Damnit, you beat me to it by seconds!!

Go Bush!! :D
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Wow 3 threads about this already
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Threads merged.
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US hands over sovereignty in Iraq 2 days early (Iraq is now a sovereign nation, etc.)
yes, ofcourse, sovereignty. all that means is that the CPA still runs the show, but from now on can just deflect any responsibility. Out of thousands or really terrible ideas that Bush has made since the start of the war, this is the one good one. Not good in the objective sense I mean, as in good for the Iraqis or whatever, I mean that its quite a  brilliant PR move, intended for the home audience and to a lesser degree, and critics abroad. I suspect that anyone actually living in Iraq knows its a sham.

Lets examione the evidence:

-Hand-picked US "interim government", made up mostly of ex IGC members.
-Irreversible laws made by the CPA while in power.
-CIA "advisors"  in every single Iraqi ministry, from education to oil.
-The biggest US embassy in the world, located in Bahgdad and staffed by over 4000 people.
-Five permanent bases, most of which are the size of a small city
-Foreign troops remain in Iraq, despite the fact that only 2% of the citizens want them there.
-the US military in Iraq remains independent of any Iraqi government, and has total freedom to do as it likes.

yeah, you can just smell the sovereignty in the air. Bush counted on everyone just buying into the BS, and I'm sad to say, he was right.

 

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US hands over sovereignty in Iraq 2 days early (Iraq is now a sovereign nation, etc.)
They own their own country now, but its still run by Americans, dont think for a second Iraqi people have full control, they dont.