[TrashMan]

I don't think Klingons would do such a thing.
I belive it would be dishonorable....

And the point is that there was no explanation needed in the first place, for the Klingons were allways supposed to have looked like Klingons. Only when they made TOS they didn't have neither the budget or the good masks.

Having stupid witters doing the scenario is a bad idea...

[Tiara]

Originally posted by TrashMan
HELLO! TNG was Gene's baby! Why did you list it under that other garbage.
And yes, while Paramount has the legal right to the ST license that still doesn't give them the right to turn everything upside down.

*COUGH* TNG was his creation yes, but he didn't write most of it.

And it gives paramount EVERY right. That's why they call it a liscence.

TNG portraid Klingons far better than DS9 did.
The writers turned them into incompetebt fools whenever they were fighting the Fed's

*cough*

In TNG they were the incompetent fools. They charged enemies that had ranged weapons with blades for ****'s sake. And 99% of the time at least half got killed before even reaching the enemy.

Ahh..but how many times have the Fed's actually insult them when they fought? 1-2 times tops....

Every time they fought they were pissed. I don't think you've watched DS9 closely enough.

But that's my point!
They DIDN'T HAVE to make ANY explanation, since the "old klingons" apperance was not necessary! It's a total screw-up!

Agreed. But I was just explainin why. i wasn't arguing your point.

I suppose that would be tru for normal Klingon installations and such, but this was their comman base! The Chancelor was there!
No scan for DNA, no weapon scans and such..
I mean, please.. I know they have low security, but this is redicolous!

Did you not get that Bashir altered them that scans wouldn't detect them being Human? And Klingons don't scan for weapons because every friggin' Klingon carries a variety of them.

And that still doesn't explain why Starfleet would send that bunch in, rather then trained commandos/spies.

Because they 1). knew the situation, 2). Were closest, 3). Had already worked with many Klingons before (read: experience), 4). Worf trusted them

But this is story issue. Not a flaw in the continuity. I'd much rather have the main character in a story them a bunch of unknown peeps that disappear the next episode never to be heard from again.

Ahh...I love the smell of victory....
Switching to insluts becouse of depletion of serious argumenst...
I love it even more when they can't accept defeat:D

Ok, it's now official!

YOU ARE A ****ING MORON! You're a waste of time, space, air, flesh, and the rectum you were born from, retard. Maybe you wouldn't read like such a pathetic loser if that pimple on your ass hadn't turned out to be a brain tumor.

This is where I started to insult you btw. Before I did nothing of the sort

Seriously, you are the pinnacle of stupidity. If you think you are any good at debating, try going to Spacebattles.com and try your luck at the Vs. battles. You'll be curb stomped faster then you can '****, I'm loser!'.

Debating with the klikes of you is highly ****ing annoying. Claiming victory on the basis of a moronic opinion is truly something for you. You don't even seem to comprehend the 'quote' function in your posts. Let alone the world around you or the topiuc you are trying to discuss. And I'm emphasizing 'trying' because you seem to be missing the entire point of the word 'debate'. I'll help you:

de·bate   Audio pronunciation of "debate" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (d-bt)
v. de·bat·ed, de·bat·ing, de·bates
v. intr.

   1. To consider something; deliberate.
   2. To engage in argument by discussing opposing points.
   3. To engage in a formal discussion or argument. See Synonyms at discuss.
   4. Obsolete. To fight or quarrel.

You only seem to understand the obsolete form of debate.

Instead of arguing your points like a normal point you claim your opinion as fact and claim 'victory'. If you still need to known; victory is not an issue in a debate. Get that through your thick skull. The point is to debate eachothers arguments yet in EVERY SINGLE ****ING post you decide to ignore the points I made and again claim your so-called victory. Again, I reiterate; IN EVERY ****ING POST!

You and your so-called 'extensive research' must've been done by a chiuaua with it's head blown off by a sawn off shotgun after it was railroaded into oblivion by my grandma's car.

You are truly the worst debater ever to exist and I will no longer waste my time on you. Learn to debate without your morinic stunts and I may consider giving you some time.

To any mods who read this: My apologies but such displays of moronism and ignorance tick me off. If you call this flame uncalled for, I really couldn't care less. People who refuse to take part in a civil debate without displaying any form of intelligence and keep on claiming they are right are nothing better then... Ok I'll just not finish this sentence before things get to harsh

[an0n]

I say we ban the next person to flame in this thread.

[neo_hermes]

what is up with the klingon's nose ridge thing...did they get geneticly altered so that they didn't have to look like humans anymore? or was there some genetics scientist smokin the doobie while drunk on the job? and i'm not expecting an anwser....
*chants to himself...then knocks himself out with a big bat*

[an0n]

I'm gonna take a stab in the dark and say it all had something to do with those damn Tribbles.

I mean, the Klingon Empire wouldn't waste time and energy wiping out an entire species just because they ate too much and hated Klingons.

[Liberator]

When did the Klingons exterminate all the Tribbles?

[Sheepy]

Coming in quite late here, so excuse me if this has been covered already ...

Back the original ST days, Klingons didnt have ridges because they couldnt make/afford them in the budget at the time.

TNG, DS9, VOY and E all had the ridge things, because blatently they could afford it, only in the time travel episode where they went back to that tribble mess type jobbie did it ever become an issue because they were using film from the Original ST and the new.

So there for, it couldnt be helped, so in other words ... who cares?

Oh and Trash ... stop being an idiot, re-stating the same thing over and over again, no matter how many different ways your idiot brain can reiterate it, doesnt make it right.

[TrashMan]

Originally posted by Tiara

Ok, it's now official!

YOU ARE A ****ING MORON! You're a waste of time, space, air, flesh, and the rectum you were born from, retard. Maybe you wouldn't read like such a pathetic loser if that pimple on your ass hadn't turned out to be a brain tumor.

This is where I started to insult you btw. Before I did nothing of the sort

Seriously, you are the pinnacle of stupidity. If you think you are any good at debating, try going to Spacebattles.com and try your luck at the Vs. battles. You'll be curb stomped faster then you can '****, I'm loser!'.

Debating with the klikes of you is highly ****ing annoying. Claiming victory on the basis of a moronic opinion is truly something for you. You don't even seem to comprehend the 'quote' function in your posts. Let alone the world around you or the topiuc you are trying to discuss. And I'm emphasizing 'trying' because you seem to be missing the entire point of the word 'debate'. I'll help you:

You only seem to understand the obsolete form of debate.

Instead of arguing your points like a normal point you claim your opinion as fact and claim 'victory'. If you still need to known; victory is not an issue in a debate. Get that through your thick skull. The point is to debate eachothers arguments yet in EVERY SINGLE ****ING post you decide to ignore the points I made and again claim your so-called victory. Again, I reiterate; IN EVERY ****ING POST!

You and your so-called 'extensive research' must've been done by a chiuaua with it's head blown off by a sawn off shotgun after it was railroaded into oblivion by my grandma's car.

You are truly the worst debater ever to exist and I will no longer waste my time on you. Learn to debate without your morinic stunts and I may consider giving you some time.

To any mods who read this: My apologies but such displays of moronism and ignorance tick me off. If you call this flame uncalled for, I really couldn't care less. People who refuse to take part in a civil debate without displaying any form of intelligence and keep on claiming they are right are nothing better then... Ok I'll just not finish this sentence before things get to harsh

I tought you understand by know..I LIKE TO BUG YOU.... And repeating posts is as good as way as any to achive that goal...

I don't ever claim my oppinion is a fact.. I only claim that when I do present some facts (and I did research mind you) that i stand by them (and that you seem to try to twis them till they loose their meaning).

Oh..and belive it or not I am a great debater...never lost one... not even against my profesors from Logic and Philosophy:D
The worst result was a stailmate...

I really wish I culd find that friggin list, so I don't have to go over the same points (tat you haven't desputed by the way...you just softned them)

anyway, I have found something very usefull I want to show you..---------------

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[Knight Templar]

Wow, you are an idiot.

[Thorn]

I think you should take your own advice and stfu.

n00b...

[Flipside]

We will see a new breed of yob soon, they'll leap out on people and ask them the frequency of a standard Federation Phaser, and if they don't answer right, they'll kick the sh*t out of them

[TrashMan]

Did I anger you with that post above Tiara?
Don't sweat it...it's only  joke, I don't really mean it...

But I guess, that just like you, I get very frustrated when other people can't see what I percive to be common sense (and what in 99% cases is common sense)


Anyway, it is completely clear that no ammount of facts of oppinions ig gonna change anything from either side. We're both stuck with our oppinions and that's it..

I'll be a better man here and quit wasting my time and energy right now... have exams tomorrow and have to travel away..

But if that column I wrote pops up, I just my open another thread for it..maby...

[Knight Templar]

... when did you become more queer than Stealth? I feel like I missed something big...

[TrashMan]

...Hey dude...I don't yell on women I don't know....
If that makes me queer in your eyes, fine...

[Tiara]

You might not've meant anything you said but I did. You ****ing n00b troll. You've surpassed the boundries of trollness. Your motto is probably:

"To seek out the n00b in me and explore the voids in my cranium. To bodly troll where no man has trolled before."

Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more success.

[TrashMan]

O.k....now I mean what I said...

"Thou demon wench!":D

I really ought to edit that previous post and check ALL boxes...
As a matter of fact, I will....

You know...it really worries me just how easy is to start to hate someone for allmost nothing... Oh well..

[vyper]

Rather not know how big it was... or not...

[Thorn]

Originally posted by TrashMan
You know...it really worries me just how easy is to start to hate someone for allmost nothing... Oh well..

Quite.

[Knight Templar]

Originally posted by TrashMan
...Hey dude...I don't yell on women I don't know....
If that makes me queer in your eyes, fine...

No, acting like a complete moron does.

Originally posted by TrashMan

You know...it really worries me just how easy is to start to hate someone for allmost nothing... Oh well..

Yet you make it so easy, don't you?

[Ghostavo]

To each it's own...