[Rictor]

As an aside, and I don't mean to divert the discussion to this; does anyone really doubt that the American government would , if it were so inclined,be able to produce a terrorist attack? Or, more plaudisibly, just let it happen? Mossad was watching the 9/11 hijackers day and night, for several months. They were literally in the motel room beside them.

Right now, the situation is something along the lines of:
Attack=Bush wins. No attack=Bush loses.

edit: you really love saying antidisestablishmentarianists, don't you Kaz? And the word of the day is: obscufate.

[Kazan]

tinfoil hattist scores some points: http://www.freep.com/news/latestnews/pm20449_20040625.htm


rictor: no the word of the day is antidisestablishmentarianists, the word of the day tommorow is obfuscate

for those of you who don't know what the big anti-word means: those who wish to combine church and state power

it's the longest word in the english language

[Flipside]

Meh, we ARE living in the End Times, we're making sure of that. How can people try to get us to nuke ourselves off the planet, and then claim it's God's work.

Quite frankly, if God is like that he can **** right off, and if he does exist and comes to me to judge me, I'll kick the bastard in the nuts!

[karajorma]

Once again Bill Hicks was on about this one years ago.

That's another good thing about Bush being gone, man, cos for the last 12 years with Reagan and Bush, we have had fundamentalist Christians in the White House. Fundamentalist Christians who believe the Bible is the exact word of God, including that wacky fire and brimstone Revelations ending, have had their finger on the ****ing button for 12 years. [Eyes roll back in head] "Tell me when Lord, tell me when. Let me be your servant Lord."

[Tiara]

Originally quoted by HotSnoJ
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion

[Flipside]

LOL That about sums it up.

I abhore terrorism, but after reading something like that, I can almost understand the urge to arm yourself with an Uzi, walk up to one of these jerks and give them your opinion in one staccato sentence

[Zeronet]

Ignorance is bliss. Sometimes, i wonder if life would be better if one just drifted into the masses and forgot all the bizzare politics of the world.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Kazan

for those of you who don't know what the big anti-word means: those who wish to combine church and state power

it's the longest word in the english language

I see your antidisestablishmentarianists

and raise you a pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis.
and a
floccinaucinihilipilification - which is probably most appropriate meaning of a word ever

[Flipside]

Probably not, I don't think they really care if people slag them off anyway, they're entrenched now.

Remember, governments don't seek what is best for their people, they seek just enough to stop them complaining. The rest they keep for themselves

And yes, I'm in a foul mood tonight

[Kazan]

aldo: they excluse medical terminology because it's technically latin

[karajorma]

Originally posted by aldo_14
pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis.
 

Ironically many people in the lab worked (somewhat carelessly) with silica gel and I worry about contracting that condition.

Mostly cause it's a hideous lung disease but also cause I'd never be able to pronouce it

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by karajorma


Ironically many people in the lab worked (somewhat carelessly) with silica gel and I worry about contracting that condition.

Mostly cause it's a hideous lung disease but also cause I'd never be able to pronouce it

I feel sorry for the poor sod who has to write up the charts.......

[Flipside]

One dictionary says it does exist, the other one says it doesn't.

Dontcha just love the Internet?

[Tiara]

USE GOOGLE AS YOUR DICTIONARY! GOOGLE IS FATHER, GOOGLE IS MOTHER! GOOGLE IS ALL! GOOGLE KNOWS ALL!

:D:p

*runs*

[aldo_14]

http://dictionary.reference.com/help/faq/language/l/longestword.html

[Gank]

http://www.tribulation.com/
Just to read up on what these people actually believe.

[Rictor]

pfft. I would have taken them more seriously if they had a count-down or something. That way at least, you know that either they're going to be saved, or they're all going to drink poison Koolaid. This just shows a lack of commitment on their part.

Tiara: blasphemy! The Corps is mother, the Corps is father! Google is a false prohphet. Repent sinners, repent!

[Flipside]

Gank!! Arrrrrgh! Death by MIDI!

[Kazan]

Trust the Corps

[Liberator]

Originally posted by Kazan
That very clearly sets out the "seperation of church and state" - the termology we use to describe it was coined by jefferson to describe it's function.

I'm afraid that once again Kaz, you have let your utter hatred for any kind of religion cloud your mind.

The first ammendment was brought about in response to the fear that the Federal Government would/could pass a law that would establish a single sect(Catholicism, Puritanism, ect) to be the "Official Religion of the Nation" and force all citizens of the nation to adhere to said sect.  This was a palatable fear as most of the country was from England where they were forced to be Anglicans even if they didn't agree with the teachings.  

The only time Jefferson referenced "a wall of separation between Church and State" was in one of the Federalist Papers, specifically written to a women's group who were concerned that a State Religion would be established.  

Basically, the 1st Amendment prevents the Feds from messing with religion, not the other way around.

Don't misunderstand, I firmly believe that a government MUST be secular.  But religion shouldn't be used as a test for anything.  When it comes to making policy decisions or judgements, religion should as much a non-issue as race should be.  At the same time though, when a leader(such as the President) speaks about how he prays for guidance, you shouldn't berate him for what you perceive to be a  weakness.