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Harbinger or Helios

Harbinger
16 (31.4%)
Helios
34 (66.7%)
Not Sure
1 (2%)

Total Members Voted: 51

Voting closed: July 11, 2004, 11:57:38 am

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Offline Jetmech Jr.

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Reply #20 on: July 18, 2004, 11:48:40 am
bah, helios owns the harbinger in every single way :D
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Reply #21 on: July 18, 2004, 12:16:11 pm
The Helios is more powerful, and does kick the Harbinger's ass in many catagories, except one:

The name.  Helios isn't as scary as cool as Harbinger.  Harbinger wins.
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Reply #22 on: July 18, 2004, 01:16:33 pm
Exactly
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Offline Nuclear1

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Reply #23 on: July 19, 2004, 07:41:40 pm
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Originally posted by Hippo
So, who voted Harbinger with me? I don't know why, but somehow I like it a lot more the the Helios... :nervous:


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Reply #24 on: July 19, 2004, 07:44:55 pm
Let's put it this way: They're all meant to be megabombs.  It's just the Helios is 30-some years later.
 

Offline .::Tin Can::.

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Reply #25 on: July 19, 2004, 07:47:42 pm
The Harbringiner just didnt FEEL like it had much "Umph" to it, but when the Helios went off it had lots of "YES" to it... ;7
 

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Reply #26 on: July 19, 2004, 08:00:34 pm
nuclear1: of course :p

TinCan: I'd actually say it was the other way around... Only because, when a Harb hit, it'd truly cripple the ship with the subsystem damage, whereas the Helios is simply Hull damage...
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Offline .::Tin Can::.

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Reply #27 on: July 19, 2004, 08:24:34 pm
Gah, I just didnt FEEL the power of the Hardbringer when I unloaded it.
 

Offline TopAce

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Reply #28 on: July 20, 2004, 05:16:29 am
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Originally posted by .::Tin Can::.
Gah, I just didnt FEEL the power of the Hardbringer when I unloaded it.


But that was the strongest weapon in FS1. How is that you did not FEEL its power? It rocked in the era of FS1.
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Offline SuperCoolAl

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Reply #29 on: July 20, 2004, 02:21:21 pm
I voted Harbinger, but I like the Helios model better- that thing looks like it means BUSINESS

EDIT- Ooops sorry double-post- i hit back to change the msg
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Offline SuperCoolAl

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Reply #30 on: July 20, 2004, 02:24:39 pm
I voted Harbinger, but I like the Helios model better- that thing looks like it means BUSINESS

so in conclusion

Harbinger is       =====D
Helios is        ==============D

But I like Harbinger best cos it could actually do damage to the Lucifer, whereas the Helios only does <1% to the Sath
 

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Reply #31 on: July 21, 2004, 09:02:35 am
A Helios could do more damage to the Lucifer.....
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Offline FireCrack

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Reply #32 on: July 24, 2004, 08:29:06 pm
I dont get it, the helios is an antimatter bomb that mnakes it more powerfull then the harbinger, but the tsunami is also antimatter and it's weaker... :(
actualy, mabye not.
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Offline Liberator

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Reply #33 on: July 24, 2004, 10:39:47 pm
It's the amount of AP(AM) in the warhead.  The Tsunami was a first generation AP bomb and thus had a much smaller warhead due to AP production limitation.  The Helios doesn't suffer from those limitations, although I remember seeing somewhere that it was in limited distribution to wings tasked with attacking hardened targets or somesuch.
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Reply #34 on: July 24, 2004, 11:07:14 pm
I think Tin Can suffers from thought dyslexia. :drevil:

Harbinger, simply because more things go boom when it hits. Eye candy :)
 

Offline FireCrack

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Reply #35 on: July 25, 2004, 03:11:44 am
Would be funny (though unbalancing) if you could hit somthing with a harbinger and the radiation would kill all the crew, watch it crash into the nearest sathanas :D
actualy, mabye not.
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Offline Forinec

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Reply #36 on: July 25, 2004, 04:16:48 pm
Harbinger, because it's more fun to use. ;)
 

Offline jdjtcagle

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Reply #37 on: July 25, 2004, 04:57:04 pm
Basically, if the harbringer can penetrate hull, it's over for that ship
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Reply #38 on: July 26, 2004, 03:54:50 am
Even the ML-16 can penetrate the hull, just not powerfully and it doesn't make a big hole. :)
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Offline Kie99

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Reply #39 on: July 27, 2004, 01:15:36 pm
if the ML-16 penetrated the hull then all the crew near the hole would be seen coming out
Funny :D but not practical :(
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