[Kie99]

In FS1 the Harbinger is a pretty powerful weapon, but it can't fry a bomber with the blast, but in FS2 the Unknown MegaBomb is described as "The Harbinger but Shivan," but when i used unknown megabomb in High Noon the blast fried my Bahka, obviously much more powerful than a Helios, so what is more powerful, Helios or Harbinger???

[Taristin]

Helios.  The shockwave thingy is just... err... tabling...

[vyper]

fs2 does tend to make things bigger, not always better (ahem, colossus), but certainly bigger.

[Knight Templar]

Uh.. the Helios is specifically stated as being stronger. The Harbinger's a nuke IIRC. The Helios is an anti-matter bomb.

[IceFire]

Helios is more poweful.

Unknown Mega Bomb has a different shield modifier.  Its 0.1 instead of 0.01 on the Harbinger.  Makes a big difference with that amount of firepower going off.  Also the Shivan one has more damage points taken off as I recall.

[Night Hammer]

Can 2 Harbingers take out a Fenris? cuz I know for a fact that two Helios can

[TopAce]

I would prefer the Helios. I think it is obvious.

[Hippo]

So, who voted Harbinger with me? I don't know why, but somehow I like it a lot more the the Helios...

[Mongoose]

I voted for Harbinger as well.  I always liked using it better than the Helios, mostly because of the Helios's ridiculously long lock times.  Speaking of that, why does a bomb's loading time have to be any slower than a missile's?  There's no fundamental difference in the targeting system, is there?  Anyway, while the Helios may be physically more powerful, the Harbinger has that old-school appeal.  After all, it killed the Lucifer .

[TopAce]

Originally posted by Mongoose
I voted for Harbinger as well.  I always liked using it better than the Helios, mostly because of the Helios's ridiculously long lock times.  Speaking of that, why does a bomb's loading time have to be any slower than a missile's?  There's no fundamental difference in the targeting system, is there?  Anyway, while the Helios may be physically more powerful, the Harbinger has that old-school appeal.  After all, it killed the Lucifer .

Gameplay balance, gameplay balance ....

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Mongoose
I voted for Harbinger as well.  I always liked using it better than the Helios, mostly because of the Helios's ridiculously long lock times.  Speaking of that, why does a bomb's loading time have to be any slower than a missile's?  There's no fundamental difference in the targeting system, is there?  Anyway, while the Helios may be physically more powerful, the Harbinger has that old-school appeal.  After all, it killed the Lucifer .

Well, the GTVA uses a mark 2 HBRS (Hamster based re-loading system) in missile bays.  Unfortunately, hamsters struggle under heav weights, so it takes them longer to heave up the Helios into place.

[Hippo]

I guess its because the Harb seemed to hit harder when it went off... Like when it hit, it would blow out everything nearby on the target ship, subsystems, turrets, etc. The Helios always seemed to simply hit and do damage, and never seemed defastating...

[Gloriano]

Well I like Harbinger and Helios
of course Helios is stronger but there something about Harp

[Setekh]

Yeah, I liked that about the Harbinger too. Helios for the business end of things, Harbinger to demoralise the enemy.

[TopAce]

The status of the Poll is now 21:3, so it means that there is one vote for the Harbringer while 7 votes arrive to the Helios. I would be able to predict what the final results will be.

[Hippo]

Ah, but it is now 21:4... So, the Harbinger votes are growing at a much steadier pace...

[Andreas]

The good old Harbringer, for sentimental reasons. And it kicks ass.

[Axel Wers]

Here is table for compare of a bombs


Harbinger

$Damage:   3200
$Blast Force:   2000.0
$Inner Radius:   100.0
$Outer Radius:   250.0
$Shockwave Speed:   75
$Armor Factor:   1.0
$Shield Factor:   0.01
$Subsystem Factor:   16.0
$Lifetime:   30.0


Unknown Mega Bomb

$Damage:   3200
$Blast Force:   2000.0
$Inner Radius:   100.0
$Outer Radius:   450.0
$Shockwave Speed:   75
$Armor Factor:   1.0
$Shield Factor:   0.0
$Subsystem Factor:   1.0
$Lifetime:   30.0


Helios

$Damage:   6800
$Blast Force:   1000.0
$Inner Radius:   100.0
$Outer Radius:   270.0
$Shockwave Speed:   75
$Armor Factor:   1.0
$Shield Factor:   0.02
$Subsystem Factor:   0.85
$Lifetime:   30.0


Helios is best bomb, but Harbinger most damage subsystems.
Unknown Mega Bomb has biggest shockwave, but without damage ($Shield Factor: 0.0).

[TopAce]

The Helios is twice as powerful.

[aldo_14]

Helios.  Cos it hurt a Sathanas.