[Tolwyn]

Originally posted by Liberator
Bob, you misunderstood my recomendation.  I recomended the Chaintech Geforce FX 5200 w/128mb of Video Ram.  This is the best PCI video card available and supports full DX9 games.  The specs say it can push 1 Billlion Texels, which by Frame Junkie standards is the ass end of unusable, but it highly playable at a reasonable resolution like 1024x768.

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it does support DirectX9... I wonder, however, if you will be able to play any DirectX9 games... without any details in 640*480 resolution.

In fact, the performance of the card can be compared to a GPU based on Geforce 3 Ti200. Due to PCI slot the performance of the card should be even lower.

Lastly, the best choice is,as Bob already said, currently a Radeon GPU, at best with a X800 chip. In this case, a new comp is in order.

[Liberator]

I didn't say that it was the best, I said it was the best PCI available.

Read some of the reviews for crying out loud.

http://www.overclockercafe.com/Reviews/VGA/Inno3D_FX5200/
http://tech-report.com/reviews/2003q2/geforcefx-5200/index.x?pg=23
http://www.beyond3d.com/previews/nvidia/nv34/index.php?p=17
http://www.digital-daily.com/video/nvidia-nv34/index03.htm

It's not meant to compete with the likes of the 6800 or the X800.  It is a BUDGET card.

I only told him it is the best possible upgrade for his existing system and ALSO reccomended a new system instead.

[Bobboau]

I was just warning him, in case he didn't follow you advice to the letter

[Goober5000]

WhackaWhackaWoo, your attitude is totally inappropriate. The coders are all doing this for free, and the least you could do is show a little respect.  If you're polite and provide us with the information we need, we're more than happy to help.  You won't get anything by yelling and swearing like you own the place.  Clean up your act or I'll close the thread.

[Lightspeed]

Originally posted by WMCoolmon
Yeah, 'official' support for Voodoo cards has been dropped.

You did try the different video drivers (OpenGL and D3D) right? And did you try the -nohtl flag?

WMCoolmon, my 'test' took place about a year before we dropped Voodoo support officialy. I dont think it *ever* worked on them

[Tepa]

stupid question would this flag help anyways -nohtl if not having htl card or just crappy integrated i810-i830 chip or V3-V5 card
and for bob radeon has PCI cards 9200se if i remember maybe even better now.
i am gettin huge temptation to test this with V3 3k&V5 5.5k and some other cards like Matrox g450+ DH

[Bobboau]

-nohtl will be worse in all situations.

[Moonsword]

No, not quite all of them.  I know at least one system where that was the only way to get FS2 builds beyond 3.5.5 to run past the first time the computer even thought about firing a beam weapon.

It wasn't exactly the most stable of situations, though, and it sure as hell didn't work with your recent builds...

[Langy]

Would -nohtl be worse in a situation where the person doesn't have hardware T&L support in his hardware?

This actually sounds a lot like what happened to a friend of mine trying to play an HT&L game with an old TNT2 videocard. The game ran, except no textures showed and everything looked very wierd. I don't remember if the menu was like that as well, but it could have been. It was fixed by getting him a new Radeon card.