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Offline Kamikaze

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Reply #20 on: July 11, 2004, 11:42:00 pm
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Jesus, who the hell would want to hack VW anyway?


It's probably a script kiddie 1337 factor thing...
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Reply #21 on: July 11, 2004, 11:52:19 pm
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I have 30GB sitting free... :P


I can set up space as well...running off 2 HDDs and I recently cleared my smaller one of FS2 :D :P
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Reply #22 on: July 12, 2004, 12:52:38 am
the guy posted with Remora's screenname explaining how to fix the problem... no one saw it but me and Snipes i don't think.  it was posted in the announcement forum.

yeah that farking sucks, because there was some stuff i wanted to take care of on the forums, but oh well.  i still have most of the vital threads (in my opinion) saved...
 

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Reply #23 on: July 12, 2004, 02:15:17 am
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Originally posted by an0n
The database should be about.......add 1, carry the 2.........700mb, plus attachments.


I recently looked at it... it's a bit over 1Gb, but IIRC attachments do comprise over 100MB. The question is how much all that would compress into a server-side phpMyAdmin-generated ZIP file. I wouldn't want to be downloading 1Gb worth of database backup every night, but ~200Mb is more reasonable.
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Reply #24 on: July 12, 2004, 03:04:12 am
Well that sucks, and here I was going to do abit of spamming over there for one final hurrah :mad:
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Reply #25 on: July 12, 2004, 03:54:03 am
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Originally posted by Sandwich


I recently looked at it... it's a bit over 1Gb, but IIRC attachments do comprise over 100MB. The question is how much all that would compress into a server-side phpMyAdmin-generated ZIP file. I wouldn't want to be downloading 1Gb worth of database backup every night, but ~200Mb is more reasonable.


I'd take weekly shifts in downloading and saving too. I could only host about 2 downloads worth, but I could dl probably once each weekday, more or less. I'd prefer a weekly roster, though.
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Offline Gloriano

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Reply #26 on: July 12, 2004, 04:46:34 am
Freaking, Hackers I really hate them
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Reply #27 on: July 12, 2004, 06:32:00 am
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Originally posted by Sandwich


I recently looked at it... it's a bit over 1Gb, but IIRC attachments do comprise over 100MB. The question is how much all that would compress into a server-side phpMyAdmin-generated ZIP file. I wouldn't want to be downloading 1Gb worth of database backup every night, but ~200Mb is more reasonable.


1GB is quite a bit, downloading would take a LOT of time o_O

But I have the disk space, so i'll take the wait :)
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Reply #28 on: July 12, 2004, 07:12:25 am
:lol: Oh you all don't get it - it'd be the poor admins having to download, not us.

Then again they could get Tiara to use her T3 for it...
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Reply #29 on: July 12, 2004, 08:23:01 am
...Shame about the VWBB. This is why I hate humanity (In general). The incessant need to destroy is appaulling. :doubt:
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Reply #30 on: July 12, 2004, 08:30:47 am
As is their stupidity...

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Offline Goober5000

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Reply #31 on: July 12, 2004, 08:45:44 am
Gah!

Well, it looks like he didn't get the Archives.  Are those still salvageable?
 

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Reply #32 on: July 12, 2004, 08:56:50 am
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Originally posted by Sandwich


I recently looked at it... it's a bit over 1Gb, but IIRC attachments do comprise over 100MB. The question is how much all that would compress into a server-side phpMyAdmin-generated ZIP file. I wouldn't want to be downloading 1Gb worth of database backup every night, but ~200Mb is more reasonable.
Not likely.

IIRC the NW database drops by just under a half.
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Offline Fineus

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Reply #33 on: July 12, 2004, 09:11:52 am
500MB every now and then wouldn't be bad...not exactly fun mind you.
 

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Reply #34 on: July 12, 2004, 09:20:35 am
You could ask GS for some shell access to a directory deep within the bowels of the server and not linked to HLP through FTP accounts, then you could use the shell to back-up the database to the GS servers, but outside the reach of a hacked FTP account.
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Reply #35 on: July 12, 2004, 09:35:26 am
and watch them piss theirselves laughing at a shell access request...
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Reply #36 on: July 12, 2004, 09:36:10 am
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Gah!

Well, it looks like he didn't get the Archives.  Are those still salvageable?


We have plans for those. :)
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Reply #37 on: July 12, 2004, 12:31:21 pm
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Originally posted by kasperl


I'd take weekly shifts in downloading and saving too. I could only host about 2 downloads worth, but I could dl probably once each weekday, more or less. I'd prefer a weekly roster, though.


why?

when you take a backup, you don't need to keep all previous backups.
 

Offline kasperl

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Reply #38 on: July 12, 2004, 01:11:26 pm
Generally, I've found it's a good idea to keep 2 backups, from dfferent dates. With things like virii, or big hacking, you might have to revert a bit further back.
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Offline Stealth

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Reply #39 on: July 12, 2004, 01:46:27 pm
i said it's not necessary to keep "all previous backups"... and you said you can "only" host 2 on your machine...  

i don't think more than 2 is ever necessary for this kind of thing.  it's not like a major corporation's backup of all its clients or something ;)

and i'm sure one of our admins has a few GB on his/her computer, i don't see that being a problem
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