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Offline c-lock

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Originally posted by venom2506:
Harg... no, shivan ships are definitively not organic...Damn derelict lol  
Have you ever seen an organic creature with sensors and turrets, with beams?
Ok, more seriously, an organic creature wouldn't be affected by disruption weaponary, it would bleed when hit, something like that,and the shivan would have the same kind of weapons, olny smaller, not those plasma launchers.
Plus look at the ships... do they look organic? That's metal, for sure.
Volition did thought about the shivan ships as organic ships (look at the apocalypse concept pic, it's obvious), but it's also clear they trashed the idea. Vasudian ships are probably more close of the organic ship (look at the strange green "veins" on the anubis, if you don't believe me...)
For the vacuum stuff in the shivan ship (hall fight cutscene)... That's not vacuum. Put a terran in space vacuum without spacesuit to see what happens ( summary: it freezes in half a secon).
For the shivans breathing nebulaes... Damn, don't you think they have enough nebulaes in the universe not to blow Capella to have one more? lol
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You are wrong with those ships! Shivan ships must be kind of organic origin.
in the ending cutscene of fs2 as the sathanas fleet is producing the subspace field to destroy the star the arms of Sathanases comming together to make space annomaly. And the metal isn't capable of bending so well.  

 

Offline aldo_14

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Originally posted by venom2506:

For the shivans breathing nebulaes... Damn, don't you think they have enough nebulaes in the universe not to blow Capella to have one more? lol
Well, after all, you know what I think   (look above if not )

Well, i wasn't entirely serious.  It was just a possibility.


 

Offline Darkage

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Originally posted by c-lock:

You are wrong with those ships! Shivan ships must be kind of organic origin.
in the ending cutscene of fs2 as the sathanas fleet is producing the subspace field to destroy the star the arms of Sathanases comming together to make space annomaly. And the metal isn't capable of bending so well.  

So how do i open my room door then? metal it self cant bend enough to get into the position when they created the subspace field.So thats why we HUMANS use joints to open en close doors,and maby the shivan have something similar like that to bend those arms.



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Originally posted by c-lock:

You are wrong with those ships! Shivan ships must be kind of organic origin.
in the ending cutscene of fs2 as the sathanas fleet is producing the subspace field to destroy the star the arms of Sathanases comming together to make space annomaly. And the metal isn't capable of bending so well.  

Plus that's wrong. Have you never heard about metals with "memory"? Have you never seen a spring?!?
And have you ever heard about sci-fie? Damn, the T1000 is in liquid metal, you should scream to unrealism dude lol
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So how do i open my room door then?

Well, I just slide mine open  

 

Offline aldo_14

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Metal is simply a liquid that flows extremely slowly at room temperature.... indeed, the high temperature of the Capella sun could actually heat the Sath 'arms' enough that they are literally melting as the beams charge.

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Well, for my part I just think those are mechanized claws, nothing else.
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Offline icespeed

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You are wrong because they can live in space, dont you rameber the FS1 cutceen when the Lusffer jumped in the Shivans did not have space soots, and that means that they can live in space. Did you read the the info in the tech room, they said that the Shivans have only been seen in 0-G environments, you are right about their stragth.


Setekh's right, i don't have freespace anyway. Even so, i reckon shivans evolved in a high gravity environment and then genetically modified themselves to live in zero-g space.
or they might just be extremely advanced robots that are controlled from far far away... after all, if humans can be intellectually better than they are physically, who says shivans can't be?
er... i didn't put that very well, did I?
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  has stated Shivans are cyborgs.  The assumption is that they have also been genetically modified, perhaps very heavily.
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Originally posted by venom2506:
Have you ever seen an organic creature with sensors and turrets, with beams?
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ever heard of downloading personalities?AI?
ship doesn't have to be organic to think...
all relates back to shivan 'superior' mentality...
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Offline Setekh

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Where are your manners, guys? Welcome to HLP, c-lock.  

As for cyborgs, here's another topic? What exactly are cyborgs?
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A living organism with inorgamic implants, such as replacement organs, limbs, etc.  So technically someone with an artificial heart is a cyborg, although really you shouldn't use the term until a significant portion of the 'meat' has been replaced by 'metal'.
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Originally posted by icespeed:
ever heard of downloading personalities?AI?
ship doesn't have to be organic to think...
all relates back to shivan 'superior' mentality...

Yep, you're right. Then it's not an organic creature dude, it's a robot, a computer... And you're confirming what I say.
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A good example of a cyborg is the borg from star trek, the man cannot survive without the machine and the machine cannot survive without the man.

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Offline The Claw

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Personally, I beleive the ships are metal, and I also think Cyborg is a term for a organic entity either completly controlled by the machine, or where the machine has a certain amount of control over the whole entities operation.
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Setekh's right, i don't have freespace anyway
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Personally, I beleive the ships are metal, and I also think Cyborg is a term for a organic entity either completly controlled by the machine, or where the machine has a certain amount of control over the whole entities operation.
 

Well, then according to that, a person with a pace maker is a cyborg, because the machine aspect controls whether the organic aspect survives.
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Offline icespeed

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Originally posted by venom2506:
Yep, you're right. Then it's not an organic creature dude, it's a robot, a computer... And you're confirming what I say.

did i say i disagreed?

do cyborgs have to have metal parts? couldn't they be... i don't know, plastic? there has to be some sort of material which is better than metal and isn't dangerous at the same time...
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You could have a Carbon Fibre derivative instead of metal - it's used in bikes etc and is a hell of a lot stronger than metal  

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those Knossoses that you and Snipes found,

Heheheheh... it just sounds funny to hear you say "you and snipes"

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