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Offline Striker

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Various FS Universe Questions
Hey Im kinda new here (been around posted only like twice) and that was a few months ago. Anyway, I'm writing a fanfic for FS2 and was wondering, what kind of fuel do the ships in FS run using? I ahve two guesses: either they run on reactors which generate the power, or they are still using much more refined versions of fossil fuels like oil or diesel or whatnot. Not much to pollute in the vacuum of space, eh? But anyway, I jsut wanted the guesses of all you guys.
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Dueterium I believe. That's what the gas miners were hauling on the way to the colossus.
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oh sorry didnt make myself clear. my fault. I was talking about the fighters, bombers, etc. I know about the Colossus and its gas (which im sure is probably condensed once collected into a liquid form). I assume that all capships are run that way. The opening scene is an NTF recon group thats running out of power, whether it be fuel or a reactor damaged or something. Yeah im that obsessed with detail. Credibility is key for fanfics.
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oh sorry didnt make myself clear. my fault. I was talking about the fighters, bombers, etc. I know about the Colossus and its gas (which im sure is probably condensed once collected into a liquid form). I assume that all capships are run that way. The opening scene is an NTF recon group thats running out of power, whether it be fuel or a reactor damaged or something. Yeah im that obsessed with detail. Credibility is key for fanfics.


Reactors. You can judge this by the fact that the weapons and shields recharge - the energy from oil or old fuels wouldn't be enough, and the amount required to power such a large (yes, the fighters ARE large) craft with such advanced weaponry would be only available from reactors like those on capitals (except, on a much, much smaller scale). Remember, fuel storage has to take as little space as possible - I wouldn't want my fighter stuffed with explosive materials :p

That, and in several missions it is mentioned that the fighters run off some reactors or power cores (especially in the last mission where one of the pilots mentions a reactor core breach before going BOOM)
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To be much more specific:
Fusion reactors.

Deuterium is used in the reaction, so either water or the atmosphere of a gas giant/nebula would work well as a source for this.
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Offline Striker

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I figured as much. Anyone care to explain what exactly deuterium is? Im not too good with elements so i dont even know if it's real.
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I figured as much. Anyone care to explain what exactly deuterium is. Im not too good with elements so i dont evne know if it's real.


Its very real. Deuterium is an isotope of Hydrogen, and is know more commonly as 'heavy water'. Its the stuff used in Fusion reactions on Earth and in stars.
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When a "reactor leak" or something of the sort were to happen, that would most likely be the condensed deuterium exiting its holding space?
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When a "reactor leak" or something of the sort were to happen, that would most likely be the condensed deuterium exiting its holding space?


you'll have to be more specific. It could just be a leakage of Coolant resulting in the reactor going critical. Or it could be the leakage of the fuel itself, as you said. Or the leak could refer to the other materials required to make the reactor itself run.
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well i think that's all i need for now. actually i have a second question. what consists of a GTVA battlegroup and a Fleet? How many of what kind of ship? (eitehr type like Cruiser or actual names are good)
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well i think that's all i need for now. actually i have a second question. what consists of a GTVA battlegroup and a Fleet? How many of what kind of ship? (eitehr type like Cruiser or actual names are good)


This one im not too sure of.

There are seperate terms used for a Terran, Vasudan or Joint Fleet.

A terran fleet will normally consist of A destroyer, anywhere from 2 to 6 Corvettes (depending on the importance of the system) a lot of Cruisers for support, several transports/support ships like gas miners and the lot, and most likely an AWACs ship. If it's a joint fleet, then double the number of ships.
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Thanks that works for me. I assume that Shivans have no known or set order, considering they are all just one big kick ass invasion force. Anyone know how the NTF works? Or are they completely ragtag?

Also, is there any sort of list of all the known capships in Freespace? For example, under Orion they would have like Galatea (Destroyed), Bastion, etc.
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Thanks that works for me. I assume that Shivans have no known or set order, considering they are all just one big kick ass invasion force. Anyone know how the NTF works? Or are they completely ragtag?

Also, is there any sort of list of all the known capships in Freespace? For example, under Orion they would have like Galatea (Destroyed), Bastion, etc.


there's a list around here somewhere. Give me a min to search around.
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No rush at all. I really appreciate you guys helping me out here.
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Here we go. It was in Sandvich's SIG.

http://www.brainzipper.com/fs2/notes/fs2_ship_list.html


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Striker, there's plenty of good information on the FS Universal Reference Project too. :)

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Originally posted by Singh
There are seperate terms used for a Terran, Vasudan or Joint Fleet.

A terran fleet will normally consist of A destroyer, anywhere from 2 to 6 Corvettes (depending on the importance of the system) a lot of Cruisers for support, several transports/support ships like gas miners and the lot, and most likely an AWACs ship. If it's a joint fleet, then double the number of ships.


That's an approximation as there is very little data about fleet size in the game. I think your estimate may actually be somewhat small though Singh. The only data that comes to mind is the following.

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36 hours ago, the NTF launched a full-scale offensive in Epsilon Pegasi, taking the GTVA 6th Fleet by surprise. Commanding his forces from the NTD Repulse, Rear Admiral Koth leads the rebel advance. With 75 percent of our forces in this system decimated, the regional death toll since the incursion now exceeds 80,000.


This info implies that the 6th fleet had over 100,000 people in it. At 10,000 to a destroyer and 6,000 to a corvette that implies a much bigger fleet than you said.

That said the 6th Fleet was stationed on the front line and may have been heavily reinforced by extra ships.
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That's an approximation as there is very little data about fleet size in the game. I think your estimate may actually be somewhat small though Singh. The only data that comes to mind is the following.

 

This info implies that the 6th fleet had over 100,000 people in it. At 10,000 to a destroyer and 6,000 to a corvette that implies a much bigger fleet than you said.

That said the 6th Fleet was stationed on the front line and may have been heavily reinforced by extra ships.


True, quite true indeed. But dont forget the support personnel as well - non combat ships do make up quite a percentage.
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36 hours ago, the NTF launched a full-scale offensive in Epsilon Pegasi, taking the GTVA 6th Fleet by surprise. Commanding his forces from the NTD Repulse, Rear Admiral Koth leads the rebel advance. With 75 percent of our forces in this system decimated, the regional death toll since the incursion now exceeds 80,000.


This info implies that the 6th fleet had over 100,000 people in it. At 10,000 to a destroyer and 6,000 to a corvette that implies a much bigger fleet than you said.

That said the 6th Fleet was stationed on the front line and may have been heavily reinforced by extra ships. [/B]


Unfortunately, that's not entirely valid either, since Petrach never specifies those are miliary casualties. Koth could have been striking out at anything that came across his path, especially anything Vasudan.
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I don't believe each fleet has just one destroyer - probably something like a Hecate as the command ship and then maybe one or two Orions for big engagements. Do we know if the Carthage part of the 3rd Fleet?