[Flipside]

The thing is, as you said that there is Art wherever you look for it, not only in sculptures and paintings, but in beehives, anthills, the grain of wood, anything you can look at that inspires a feeling of creativeness within yourself.

I agree with you that you cannot define 'Art', that is because Art defines itself by it's longevity, my own thought is that Art starts out as 'Media' and if it stands of the test of time, then it matures into what we consider Art. So time will really answer these questions far more effectively than we can

[01010]

Originally posted by vyper
Might be a teen anger thing that's yet to finish that draws you to Pollack.

I see way more passion and artistic merit in the Pollock over the Kinkade (sp?). Art is not merely about aesthetics, it is the representation of the state of mind of the artist. The Pollock for me is an angry picture, the use of colour and texture give it a dark and brooding feel whereas the landscape picture just leaves me feeling nothing, it looks like a christmas card.

[vyper]

I give up, you're all philistines.

[01010]

How is having an opinion on something as wildly subjective as art make anyone here a philistine?

I could agree if people here were denouncing the cultural value of all art be it (subjectively) good or bad but no one is, it's merely differing perspective on what art actually is. My personal opinion is that art is anything that means something to the artist, that has a point to it, even if just for that one person, art is not limited purely to the technical skill of the artist but more to the passion, devotion and vision of a human being.

However, I think that if you're going to have this kind of argument over something so very, very subjective as art, you're going to have another politics or religion thread on your hands.

[Flipside]

LOL Not really, I'm 32, so my Teen Angst has transformed into Mid-life crisis

As I say, I don't like Pollacks works, but I can see emotion in what he is doing, Is it merely paint throwing by an impotent tantrum-thrower, or is it an expression of artistic anger? I don't know.

imho Bags full of rubbish are not art, Half a horse/sheep etc is not art, posing human corpses like some kind of macabre puppet show is not art.

But then I have seen carvings that are little more than 'blobs', paintings that are little more than splashes, which have captured my imagination.

[Mongoose]

Let's put it this way:  if there are any more janitors around, that piece of media will never survive long enough to be considered "art."

[Ford Prefect]

Vyper didn't like my Kinkade comment.