[Gai Daigoji]

Originally posted by Falcon
What will your comapany's name be? Maybe HLP can help you guys select one.

We have a few that we might use, but the one everyone seems to like is: "Vindication"

aldo_14 - Your right, the moment Interplay gets wind that companies want to purchase "X" license then they will raise the price.

vyper -  Its good to see someone else has some plans like me
 Thanks for your advice, but we're still going to try and am sure it will hit off.
Good luck with your company.

[Flipside]

To be honest, Vyper does speak truth here, as much as I hate to admit it, you might do better allowing you own imagination to run wild with a game first, you may find you own ideas go beyond Freespace even

The money would obviously be yours to do with as you wish, if all of your friends are avid Freespace fans and are dedicated to doing it, I say go for it, but it is worth considering working without 'other peoples rules' containing you at first

[Gai Daigoji]

Originally posted by Flipside
To be honest, Vyper does speak truth here, as much as I hate to admit it, you might do better allowing you own imagination to run wild with a game first, you may find you own ideas go beyond Freespace even

The money would obviously be yours to do with as you wish, if all of your friends are avid Freespace fans and are dedicated to doing it, I say go for it, but it is worth considering working without 'other peoples rules' containing you at first

Eight of us have played both FS1 and FS2, the other two have only played FS2 but we are dedicated to working on FS3 should the rights come into our hands.

We've talked about it and should we manage to get a hold of the rights then great! Full speed ahead with production and we'll work with the HLP community and the SCP people since you all have worked and dreamed of this game. And if [V] accepts our offer then even better as it will be an offical story-line. But if we don't then we'll work on something else and try and create something just as good as Freespace, using insight from this community still

[Flipside]

A Win-Win situation  

Well, I wish you all the best of luck, no matter how things go, let us know your companies name when you decide on one, and I'm sure we will watch how things go for you.

[Windrunner]

This sounds very intresting. I'll make sure other staff sees this thread.

I really like the part of your post about working close with the community.

SCP has some talented coders. Talk to them about this and get thier point of view too.

[Sandwich]

Guys! Where are your manners??!?!

[Flipside]

LOL Sorry, got so swept away about the whole FS3 thing we forgot!

Welcome aboard Gai

[Lightspeed]

Well, sorry in advance for this post.

I, for one, hope you miserably fail at getting the rights to Freespace. I do NOT hope Derek gets them either.

What I'm trying to say is, as soon as someone has the means to do FS3 and does so - the SCP is dead. Because whoever is paying that much for the rights, will seek to make profit out of it as well. However, this includes two things:

There's no way the source code will be available.
There's no way something like this could ever be again.

If it were for me, the ideal situation would be that there's never something like FS3, and we have the SCP, which is, open-source.

We have one of the few open source projects that does NOT suck, and I don't want to lose it.

Sorry, being an egoistic bastard, but I cannot wish you luck, when your endeavour means our doom.

[Flipside]

It wouldn't mean our doom any more than Derek Smart getting the rights would have meant our doom Lightspeed, at least as far as I understand thngs. True, the creation of a Freespace 3 is going to detract from the SCP a little, but this guy has been generous enough to offer to take our opinions into consideration with this game, I am certain we would be in the links list on any kind of Freespace 3 website, so the overall effect may actually be to enhance HLP and it's work, not destroy it

It's not even been decided whether he'll be able to buy it yet, but if he wants to, we cannot stop him, and I for one would rather have an ambivalent dictatorship than a non-ambivalent one.

That said, I do understand the concerns, but if this guy had any intention on clamping down on the SCP, I don't think he would be posting here asking our opinions.

[Sandwich]

Is it even legally possible to close an open-sourced code base project just because the liscence to the original game data files (story/universe, not the engine) changes hands??

[Flipside]

He could, if he so chose, clamp down on the use of 'Vasudan' 'GTVA' 'Shivan' etc, we are free to use only the code as far as my understanding goes.

That said, any company would realise that clamping down on it's own brand names being spread around would be an anti-profit activity. More mods means more attention, SCP appearing in the Gamespy News means more attention, and more attention means sales.

A games root fanbase can, if so motivated, advertise that game with far more energy on the Internet community than a company can, where the game is relegated to another pop-up or side-ad.

So, yes it is possible, it is also unlikely in the extreme, in my opinion.

[Goober5000]

I think it's possible in this particular case, since it wasn't truly open-source to begin with.

But there's a big difference between the engine and the story.  They could make a FS3 campaign and continue to let the SCP add improvements to the engine.

[Lightspeed]

Let's be realistic. WHO would go for the SCP when Freespace 3 is out?

Even if we had thousands of times better stuff, I doubt we would have any amount of people left worth mentioning.

[Flipside]

Oh, I don't know, after all the rights will belong to these guys, not us, it might mean adding a FS3 specific forum to HLP, which would probably get a lot more visitors than the rest of it, but I'm sure most of the the older community would still be here, and no doubt some new members will drift over from time to time.

Besides if these guys get the rights, we could possibly come to some sort of 'gentlemens agreement' regarding how far in the future it takes place, so that we are not treading on their toes, and our Mods can remain more or less 'valid', and also regarding the .vp's themselves deom Freespace 2, possibly making each Mod a fully downloadable game.

The fact remains that, for now, the rights remain a fish in open water, I'd personally rather that, should it be developed, it were developed by someone who is polite enough to ask for our comments, even though they by no means have to.

SCP 'May' suffer because of the development, I'm sure it would take quite a while to write something on the scope of FS3, but I don't see the SCP dissapearing, with the right kind of relations between the developer and the fans, you could have a situation where everyone wins, at least, that's my opinion

[Falcon]

Originally posted by Lightspeed
Let's be realistic. WHO would go for the SCP when Freespace 3 is out?

Even if we had thousands of times better stuff, I doubt we would have any amount of people left worth mentioning.

Yeah I get what your saying but even though some may go play Freespace 3 doesn't mean they would abandone the SCP I know I wouldn't.

[Lightspeed]

Originally posted by Flipside
The fact remains that, for now, the rights remain a fish in open water, I'd personally rather that, should it be developed, it were developed by someone who is polite enough to ask for our comments, even though they by no means have to.

While I agree 100% with that, it is one of my big hopes that nobody will ever get the chance to make a FS3.

[Bobboau]

no matter what happens, nothing can threten the SCP, other than our own lack of enthusiasm.

[Flipside]

I do understand where you're coming from, as a modder and musician, I've seen more creativity in this forum than can ever be contained in a single game. But that's how the SCP will survive

However, I can't outblow the wind and I cannot wish these guys anything but good luck with their company, however they start it. Posting here was a good start, from a purely 'selfish' point of view, but if they pick up the rights, if it 'is' going to happen, I'll support them

[Night Hammer]

There were plenty of people still MODding FS1 after FS2 came out, at least for a while and that was without the SCP.


Im all for it man best of luck to you and your friends

[Gloriano]

Well good luck getting FS licence