[Zuljin]

Originally posted by kode
very much like we swedes dislike the inferior norwegian people. and also, that king guy that thought it'd be a good idea to vote on whether they wanted their own country or not.

Well....that feeling is mostly mutual. Norwegians usually tend to look down on swedes the same way

[Martinus]

Originally posted by Bobboau
my point was that despite opposeing us, all these nations are still finding themselves under atack, that it isn't us(USA) that there ultimately shooting at but rather us(not them).

france was the lead in opposition.

Rictor if you want to post everytime someone dies go ahead

"I have no idea about Nepal"

[color=66ff00]I know that Bob, I was just commenting on the France thing, it's always bugged me.

I think it reinforces that these guys are on a so called mission from God and anyone and everyone that isn't them is a target.
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[Flipside]

Personally I think the Terrorists didn't know what their demands would be until they knew the nationality of the people they had just kidnapped. When they grabbed a couple of journalists and found out they were French, the only thing they could make into an excuse for a 'holy killing' was the headscarf. Same with the Nepalise

Some silly bastard, naming no names, gave the terrorists a soapbox, and they are happily soaking it in blood.

[Rictor]

Originally posted by ionia23


You really need to go and watch the beheading clips.  Seriously.

And yes, I do think you should start posting every time someone from Iraq, Afghanistan, or Chechnya dies for any reason (that makes it to print).

awww, you know how at the end of the Green Mile, the big guy dies. Yeah, I was totally crying, I just couldn't help myself. Why, why did he have to die!

Please. I've seen the beheading clips. So what, they chop off the guy's head. Could just as well have shot him, or starved him or threw him in a pool of piranahas. You think that because the death is grizzly, that someone makes it a greater crime? How many untold thousands died because a cruise missle hit their house, but the TeeVee never saw it fit to broadcast. Because you don't see them, they don't exist, right? Its just like General Whathisface said, when you see something uncomfortable, like dead Iraqi civilians, just change the channel. Problem solved.

[Flipside]

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040831/ap_on_re_eu/france_iraq_hostages_040831103859

I'm not certain about some of the wording in here, it seems to imply without implying if that makes any sense, but here you go

[ionia23]

Originally posted by Rictor


awww, you know how at the end of the Green Mile, the big guy dies. Yeah, I was totally crying, I just couldn't help myself. Why, why did he have to die!

Please. I've seen the beheading clips. So what, they chop off the guy's head. Could just as well have shot him, or starved him or threw him in a pool of piranahas. You think that because the death is grizzly, that someone makes it a greater crime? How many untold thousands died because a cruise missle hit their house, but the TeeVee never saw it fit to broadcast. Because you don't see them, they don't exist, right? Its just like General Whathisface said, when you see something uncomfortable, like dead Iraqi civilians, just change the channel. Problem solved.

What any of this has to do with the Green Mile, I have no idea.  But as for the other half....

Man, if you can be so nonchalant after watching those videos....christ, I hope I never get that jaded.

The fundamental difference here is intent.  Interesting to note that those folks from Nepal being gutted doesn't mean a damn to you, but a US Marine defending the righteous butts of the Iraqi opulation misses it's target, and you're out holding protest marches.

(thinks)

I get it.  Either this is a devil's advocate argument or as long as the people killed aren't Muslim (preferably culturally and spiritually), then it's perfectly okay.  Tell me it isn't a race thing, please.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by TopAce
Americans are in some Point of views, English and English people do not like the French. Americans have the British 'I do not like France' blood flooding in their bodies.

Scots like the French, BTW.  Auld Alliance and all that.

[Flipside]

It's so nice to hear who I do and don't like, saves me having to form my own opinions hehehehehe

[Gank]

Originally posted by ionia23
I get it.  Either this is a devil's advocate argument or as long as the people killed aren't Muslim (preferably culturally and spiritually), then it's perfectly okay.  Tell me it isn't a race thing, please.

This from a guy who wanted to nerve gas a town of 500,000 because 4 US mercenaries were killed.

[ionia23]

Originally posted by Gank
This from a guy who wanted to nerve gas a town of 500,000 because 4 US mercenaries were killed.

Ahh, I remember that colorful debate.  Wanted?  No.  Sure sounded that way at the time I'm sure.  Nerve gassing the very people you're supposed to be protecting is self-defeating at best.  Try again.

[Corsair]

Originally posted by ionia23
When the whole "Freedom Fries" thing started here I took a position of "Here's a thought: If you've got such an issue with France, how about shipping back the Statue Of Liberty?"

Shuts 'em up quick.  People forget who helped out in the Revolutionary War here.  France and Spain.  A little gratitude wouldn't kill us.

[sarcasm]Mwuahahahaha. We liberated France in 1944! Without us, they wouldn't exist! They owe US![/sarcasm]

[Sandwich]

You know, there's one way to destroy terrorism without firing a single shot against it.

Kill all the journalists.

[Rictor]

explain to me how this is terrorism, but turning Grozny into a bullet-ridden pile of rubble isn't?

[vyper]

@Sandwich : Tell me you jest.

[Gank]

Originally posted by ionia23


Ahh, I remember that colorful debate.  Wanted?  No.  Sure sounded that way at the time I'm sure.  Nerve gassing the very people you're supposed to be protecting is self-defeating at best.  Try again.

Poor attempt at deflecting your hypocracy.

[Ace]

Originally posted by Sandwich
You know, there's one way to destroy terrorism without firing a single shot against it.

Kill all the journalists.

...and the lawyers (afterall, they defend these terrorist scum in court! Stupid justice!)

...and the politicians (afterall, they're either speaking for the terrorists or are terrorist targets!)

...and the business people exploiting other countries (afterall, 'globalization' is something these folks hate)

...and members of all of the world's religions... (afterall, members of other religions these folks hate)

Damn, no one's left but a few atheist beach bums...

But in all seriousness, Sandwich is pretty close. Ignoring and censoring these people means that their 'message' isn't being spread.

[vyper]

It also destroys freedom.

[Knight Templar]

Russian Bombings = Newsworthy because you don't usually here about this kind of **** going on in Russia. Personally, I think I'd be a nice change of pace to read about Chechens and Russians killing each other for a while. Iraq is so passe, and don't even get me started on the Palestinian / Israel snorefest...

[Taristin]

You, Sir, are a humanitarian.

[Ford Prefect]

Kill all the journalists? I hope that's another way of saying "prevent consolidation of the media industry."

The journalist is possibly the most important person for the survival of a free society.