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Offline NGTM-1R

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I find that if I just order my wingmen to engage the enemy and make a solo run for the node at top speed with the engine power maxed out and heavy on the burner, I get there intact, my wingmen are in the next mission all intact, and it's all pretty easy.

I used to do it in an Ursa 'cuz I didn't trust Delta very much. Now I just use the Herc and concentrate on living long enough to let Delta do their job, which they usually can, fighters or no fighters. They do it a lot better in the Port, although that might have something to with the fact they were armed with Cyclops bombs in that mission...
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I prefer the Athena packed with Furies and Stilletos and double Avengers.
First I thin the fighter cover and then I help with the reactors. But one of my favorite missions was Clash of the Titans.. too bad the normal cpaship weaponry sucked. I actually played a modified FS1 in which I gave capships powerfull weapons.. boy, was that fight great!
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Why don't you take the Prometheus? I like the Athena as well as any other fighters, but why not take a powerful weapon when it is available? Is the nergy Comsumption the problem?
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Athena can't carry it.

...I think.
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Nope it can't...But I still love that ship.. I got myslef a special version of the Athena - the Athena DH..
Textured in darker tones and with a skull symbol. Real cool looking SOC ship that makes the Zeus and Artremis look like toys.
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Athena can't carry it.

...I think.


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I thought the Athena was pretty damn ugly, actually.

 

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She is a nice ship, in my subjective opinion.
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Fastets bomber in the entire fleet - it's the best lightning bomber IMHO even better then the Artemis if you're to cripple the capships instead sinking them.
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It was a nice "bomber", but at the time it couldn't carry any bombs. Which was kind of odd. The only thing it could really carry in FS1 was stilettos. I hope TVWP is rectifying that issue.

 

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It is almost as sure as this is the 50th post in this thread.
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I F**king hope they aren't correcting that. Bombers weren't supposed to kill capships. Their job was to kill turrets and subsystems so that the other caps could move in and finish them off. Now it may be that at the start of the war before capships got so heavily armed and armoured they killed enemy ships but I'll be pretty disapointed if towards the end of the campaign we're still seeing wings of bombers taking down anything over cruiser size.
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Direct them at that post and discuss it in their forums.

or

Ask in the FAQ!
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I kinda like the Athena's looks, myself...but the lack of weapons compatibly is the end of it, really. It can't carry bombs, it can't carry Promethus cannon, and it can't carry Hornets.
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Direct them at that post and discuss it in their forums.

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Well since I only have your word that they were planning to f**k up I'll just assume that they aren't idiots and aren't planning to f**k up :D
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They will certainly get some less powerful bombs, probably some which are as powerful as the Trebuchet.
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My take on the whole T-V War bombers is that we can assume that there were other anti-capship bombers/bomb-like weapons before the development of the Medusa, Ursa, Tsunami, Harbinger, Stiletto, etc.  I don't think the whole GTA was flying Apollos and using ML-16s at the start of FS1 :p.  Obviously, the bombers wouldn't have been as effective, but they had to have at least some impact on capital ships.  I seem to remember the Tech Room descriptions talking about Vasudan bomber capabilities with regards to capital ships.  If this is true, then it's perfectly fine for the TVWP to include new bombers/bombs.

 

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I kinda like the Athena's looks, myself...but the lack of weapons compatibly is the end of it, really. It can't carry bombs, it can't carry Promethus cannon, and it can't carry Hornets.


Who needs Hornets? With Furies it's childs play kicking shivan asses. And the Avenger is a really good cannon - fires faster then the Prometheus.

And in my oppinion FS1had some flaws. Capships really didn't have any anticapship guns, there is too little heard of bombers at the start of the campaign.
You DO get the feeling that all the GTA has is Apollos with ML-16..

I do hope they will correct that - in fact, I would be glad to give them my weapons.tbl with rebalanced capship weapons..
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Hm.  Could a mod split the T-V war posts and move them to the T-V war forum? :)

 

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My take on the whole T-V War bombers is that we can assume that there were other anti-capship bombers/bomb-like weapons before the development of the Medusa, Ursa, Tsunami, Harbinger, Stiletto, etc.  I don't think the whole GTA was flying Apollos and using ML-16s at the start of FS1 :p.  Obviously, the bombers wouldn't have been as effective, but they had to have at least some impact on capital ships.  I seem to remember the Tech Room descriptions talking about Vasudan bomber capabilities with regards to capital ships.  If this is true, then it's perfectly fine for the TVWP to include new bombers/bombs.


Bombers did have an impact. They took out subsystems. Trying to do that in a fighter is pretty suicidal without shields. Once the enemy ship couldn't fight back a destroyer could close and deliver the deathblow.

Remember that before the shivans appeared losing an Orion was considered a major blow. That suggests that destroyers didn't get killed often. Which further suggests that bombers were pretty ineffective at killing ships like the Orion.

It's perfectly fine for TVWP to show the older ships getting owned by bombers but the Orion should be pretty much impervious to them. It's an easy matter to say that the Orion's armour is so new that standard bombs bounce off of it without doing much damage. That means you can have bomber missions in the earlier parts of the campaign.  

As for what ships the GTA were using we know they had both the Angel Scout, the Apollo, Apolloyon (or whatever you want to call it) and IIRC the Athena itself wasn't newly introduced either.
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