[aldo_14]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3656524.stm

[Carl]

all i know is, there's a fox that lives around my neighborhood that's eaten a few pet cats, and i'm gonna shoot him before he get's mine.


...now that i think about it, that has little to do with the topic.

[Clave]

Fox hunting is evil...

If you need to control vermin, use traps, poison or guns.

If you want a sporting challenge, play football or something...

[vyper]

dude... most foxes wouldn't go within ten feet of a cat.

[Flipside]

Foxes don't eat Cats, I'd be more inclined to look for a Lynx or similar larger cat. Cats can actually do far more damage to a fox than vice versa.

[Flipside]

Just an interesting development, it appears that a group of people protesting the Ban on fox-hunting have broken into parliament, obviously Fathers 4 Justice has started a trend

LOL You know, if it weren't for the fact that Terrorists kill people, this would be funny As it is, it's more than a little bit embarrasing.

[Night Hammer]

hmmm, hunting is real big down here in texas, but thats like deer and dove, no foxes.......kill a coyote now n then but no foxes

[Black Wolf]

You know, if the people who participate in the sport were in any way competent hunters, there'd be much less of an outcry. It's the same as pheasant shooting - most of the people that do it are crappy shots, and more often than not will wound the animal and leave it lying in pain rather than kill it cleanly (or, in this case, let the dogs tear it to shreds).

[01010]

I wouldn't actually mind if it wasn't so barbaric, I don't like poison and I don't like shooting however they are usually quick to task, not chasing a fox for miles with bloodhounds at it's tail terrifying it halfway to it's death in the first place, then letting it be ripped apart. I think it's disgusting that they try to portray it as a humane death.

I like the way the hunters try to make out that the fox population needs to be controlled, foxes actually maintain their own population, how much food is available to them determines whether they breed or not.

[aldo_14]

If they replaced the fox with a remote controlled car / airplane / helicopter, would they (the hunters) complain?  If so, does that mean hunting is for the satisfication of brutal, violent death rather than *cough* 'sport'?

[Carl]

Originally posted by vyper
dude... most foxes wouldn't go within ten feet of a cat.

this one does. people have seen it.

[Petrarch of the VBB]

It's probably menacing domexticated pets because
a) It's desperate, perhaps because all the wild small animals have been killed by hunting, lack of food, etc
b) You have really wimpy pets.

[TopAce]

Do not ban: We need food from somewhere.

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[Kie99]

Originally posted by TopAce
Do not ban: We need food from somewhere.

Noone eats the foxes.

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Anyway the friggin protestors are fecking idiots, attack the police what did they hope to acheive, noone seeing the idiots doing all their stupid **** will think "Oh I'll vote for them cos they're really angry!"
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[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
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[TopAce]

From where the hell should have I known nobody eats foxes? Knowing human behaviour, everything is imaginable.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by TopAce
From where the hell should have I known nobody eats foxes?

Common sense?

[beatspete]

Originally posted by Clave
Fox hunting is evil...
If you need to control vermin, use traps, poison or guns.

I wouldn't say traps or poison are especially fox friendly either.

Anyway, here's a few questions:
Do you live in the country? ... possibly
Do you work on a farm?  ....doubt it
Would you like it if someone tried to ban your favourite tradition?  ..No.

Personally I don't really consider the rights of foxes to be that important in the greater scheme of things.  I don't know what foxes themselves think of me, but thats irrelevant.   The law in scotland currently is that you can chase the fox with dogs but you can't kill it with them. Seems fair enough.

Urban foxes are certainly a menace, I've seen one 3 times lately and I live in a city.

[Rictor]

To be considered sport, there must be a chance of loosing. The other team can't be defenceless. As it stands, its not really very likely the fox will turn around and maul you to death, and even the chances of it escaping aren't that good.

So I propose that, yes, fox hunting should remain legal, however, fox hunts will take place in designated hunting areas, and these areas will be littered with landmines. Even the playing field a bit, you know...or actually even it a lot, depending on how many you step on...